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Buriel place, George Crutchley.

lynne webb

lynne webb

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
I'm trying to find the buriel place of George Crutchley b. abt 1830 and died Jan.qtr 1901 at 10 Victoria Road Handsworth. He doesn't appear to be in Handsworth Cem. so has anyone any ideas for where he could be please.
Thanks. Lynne.
 
I've looked on FMP, but he's not showing up as being in Key Hill or Warstone Lane. There is a Henry Crutchley buried in WL in 1901 (6 in the grave)
 
Leslam, would you be able to give me the names of the others in the grave with Henry Crutchley please. There is a possibility he could be the brother of George and maybe theres a clue there. Thank you.
Lynne.
 
I'll look to see if I can work it out - they aren't listed independently, but if they are all Crutchleys it may be possible to do so. If not, Key Hill Brian may be able to use the reference to identify who else is in the grave.
 
Lynne, have you got the National Probate details for him? They give an actual date of death, IM me if you don't want them on the thread, or let me lnow via thread and I will pass them on. Doesn't give any clue to burial place though!
Sue
 
Leslam, thanks so much for the time and trouble, if you have no luck I will try Brian.
Sue, Ive got the Probate so know when he died but finding his grave is proving a bit of a problem. He's not in WL, KH, Handsworth or St.Marys Handsworth. I've E Mailed Witton but no reply yet. Thanks both.
Lynne.
 
It's not easy to work out from FMP, but I have used www.jqrg.org to find the grave number and the original inscription for J 2346 . It's not clear if the memorial is there or was laid flat. I'll send you the details - not clear if I should post information from JQRG on here.

If you want me to locate the grave on a section map, let me know
 
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Leslam, If its not too much trouble I would like for you to locate the grave on a map please. Thanks so much.
Lynne.
 
I have a map and I've located the grave. I'm not sure if it's OK for me to add the map on here (I need to check with Brian first), so if your send me a message with your email address, I'll forward it to you
 
Lynne,
Would expect memorial to be still there.
Here are all WL Crutchley's - some of them may also be yours
CRUTCHLEY
Ada J 1867 None 13426
Albert 1913 J 5 (Vault) 70154
Ann 1867 B-1461 13368 6 MI
Original plot ref None.
Caroline 1923 Q-316 86711A 8
Note numbering duplicated!
Charles 1936 J-2346 94398 6
Edmund 1880 I-4 27384
Hannah 1893 H-1091 46029 4
Hannah 1920 J-2346 84473 6
Henry 1863 B-1461 12043 6 MI
Henry 1877 P-1823 23394
Henry 1901 J-2346 57740 6
Ida May 1958 J-2346 104962 6
James 1874 J-2346 16804 6
John 1873 H-1169 15943
Lily 1882 P-1405 30948
Male infant 1922 B-1791 85867
Mary 1857 R-5 5714
Susan Kate 1957 P-1472 104599
William H 1903 L-527 59628 4
ps If you need the WL Grave section plans on a spreadsheet - email me
Brian
 
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And in Key Hill there is -

1948 Vault 7 58461 Baby
Alfred 1906 C 308 45933
Amy 1869 Corridor 4 (Vault) 20734
Arthur Richard 1912 L 207 48990
Clara 1925 K 948 53086 5
Eliza 1844 E 16 3040 cc.
Frederick William 1910 L 200 48179
George 1906 C 310 46410
George William 1897 S 10 40655
Henry 1899 K 948 42288 5
Herbert 1889 K 948 34446 5
John 1905 C 307 45750
John Thomas 1903 C 300 44855
Mary 1876 K 948 23810 5
Family Grave Bricked 12 feet
Mary 1880 G 7 (Vault) 27525
Mary Ann Elizabeth 1897 S 10 40654
William 1888 K 948 33952 5

CRUTCHLY
George Francis 1907 Q 615 46618
 
Here's the location of J 2346.


Warstone LaneJ2346.jpg

I'll go through Brian's list and look for the others
 
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Leslam and Brian, thank you both so much for all your help, I cant believe there are so many Crutchleys but i will go through each one on the list to see if any are connected. The map will be very useful for when I drag Lyn (Astoness) round to find it. Thanks again, you really are brilliant people.
Lynne.
 
WL_J_2346_Crutchley_family.JPG Hi Lynne, just got back from WL - pic attached - cross is detached from base. Base is badly scored on 3 sides - scraped by machinery probably - have taken more pics but will mess about loading into/out of Coppermine after a bath & dinner. Grave is about 7 rows from main path and about the same in from the sloping path - pics to follow in an a couple of hours.

Brian
 
Hi Lynne, i have a friend clifford cruthley who was born in 1938, he tells me his granfather had a brother called george who lived in the handsworth area in 1901, i know his granfather was a blacksmith at H P sauce pam x,
 
OMG lynne the crutchleys are as bad as my froggatts lol...me thinks hiking boots maybe called for and maybe a small hip flask lol..

lyn
 
Correction - only 5 Crutchleys listed in post 11
Missing one is
SHEFFIELD
Katherine 1895 J-2346 49686 6

Presumably a daughter who married

Brian
 
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WL_J_2346_view_towards_Lodge.JPG View from J 2346 towards Lodge

WL_J_2346_view_towards_Warstone_Lane_showing_car_on_sloping_path.JPG View from J 2346 Looking slighlty right of previous showing Warstone Lane in distance and sloping path towards Mint - where the car is parked
 
WL_J_2346_view_from_main_path.JPG View of J 2346 from main path

WL_J_2346_view_towards_Pitsford_St_from_main_path.JPG View of main Pitsford entrance from main path

WL_J_2346_view_towards_Vyse_St_from_main_path.JPG View of Vyse St from Main path

WL_J_2346_view_towards_Warstone_Lane_from_main_path.JPG View of Warstone Lane from main path

These should help you locate the grave when you visit!
 
Pics of the base and inscriptions have just been loaded up into Coppermine and labelled - I'm afraid I cannot play any longer - the clock has beaten me and the missus sez I gotta go in now and 'ave me dinna!
Hope to come out and play aftawuds!!!!
 
Brian, what can I say, thank you so much for the pics, you have made it so easy to find, well for Lyn, she will lead the way,and I'll follow behind.
Lyn, I think we will need a packed lunch when we go.
Pam, I have added your Clifford to my look up lst, you never know he could be connected.
Thanks again to you all,
Lynne.
 
It's a pleasure to help Lynne
Just gobbled me dinna and can play again whilst the archers is on ans she's sat listening on 'er 'eadgfones whilst watching Boycie + NMarlene antique 'unting!
WL_J_2346_front_of_base_-_top.JPG WL_J_2346_front_of_base_-_middle.JPG WL_J_2346_front_of_base_-_bottom.JPG Front of base Top to Bottom Henry and wife Hannah
 
lynne webb said:
Brian, what can I say, thank you so much for the pics, you have made it so easy to find, well for Lyn, she will lead the way,and I'll follow behind.
Lyn, I think we will need a packed lunch when we go.
Pam, I have added your Clifford to my look up lst, you never know he could be connected.
Thanks again to you all,
Lynne.
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forget the packed lunch lynne...just the hip flask lol...great work leslam and brian...

lyn
 
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