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162 brearley st..newtown
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Lyn
No 162 was on the south side between Hospital St and Great Russell St. i attach a map showing Brearley st c 1913. I am not clear as to which of the two buildings marked in red were no 162. I must have been one of them, The Rose and crown pub marked nearby is no 154, and even numbers wedre on the south side (after about 1880)
mike
No 162 was on the south side between Hospital St and Great Russell St. i attach a map showing Brearley st c 1913. I am not clear as to which of the two buildings marked in red were no 162. I must have been one of them, The Rose and crown pub marked nearby is no 154, and even numbers wedre on the south side (after about 1880)
mike
Lyn
The space is about equivalent in length with that side of the pub. On the map the two houses next two the pub are also equivalent in length to that side of the pub. The OS maps are to scale, so the "hole" must be the two houses next to the pub (sorry if I'm being a bit pondersome, its my scientific training). therefore the two houses still there are the two I've marked in red. In fact you can see the entrance to the court behind between them, which is also shown on the map between the two red houses. Therefore one of them is no 162 , I just don't know which
mike
The space is about equivalent in length with that side of the pub. On the map the two houses next two the pub are also equivalent in length to that side of the pub. The OS maps are to scale, so the "hole" must be the two houses next to the pub (sorry if I'm being a bit pondersome, its my scientific training). therefore the two houses still there are the two I've marked in red. In fact you can see the entrance to the court behind between them, which is also shown on the map between the two red houses. Therefore one of them is no 162 , I just don't know which
mike
claire-brum71
master brummie
Claire is very happy now she understands, it was all going over the top of my head there lol Whooop whoop 
be great if she was stood in the window at the time, would have made it far easier lolololol
be great if she was stood in the window at the time, would have made it far easier lolololol
claire-brum71
master brummie
It sure is, as always Mike comes up trumps, what would we do without him Thanks Mike x
claire-brum71
master brummie
Be good if i could find someone who actually rememebers them now
claire-brum71
master brummie
Not so far they haven't lol Took me two years to find Nanny Martha as noone really knew much about her, now i have a pic of her house just need someone who knew of her and find out more about her, that would really make my day
just need someone who knew of her and find out more about her, that would really make my day
claire-brum71
master brummie
Martha was a bit like that, but theN had the remaining family not thought she was Welsh and born in Wales it would have made things easier... she was from Gloucester, I got her Marriage certificate and after 3 hours with a cousin of a cousin on GR he found her, she'd also said she was 19 when she was 16! think it may have been a shot gun wedding lol Would love to find her in 1901 and 1911 but i can't, she isn't anywhere
Claire
Is your martha Martha Chadwick? She is listed on the electoral roll for 1930 and 1935. but had gone by 1939 . Before that, in 1920 and 1925 it is listed as William and Annie Chadwick. In 1920 and 25 at the back (no 1 court 27) were Annie & William Fewtrell, a good old brummie name
Mike
Is your martha Martha Chadwick? She is listed on the electoral roll for 1930 and 1935. but had gone by 1939 . Before that, in 1920 and 1925 it is listed as William and Annie Chadwick. In 1920 and 25 at the back (no 1 court 27) were Annie & William Fewtrell, a good old brummie name
Mike
claire-brum71
master brummie
That's the one Mike, she had business's and all sorts, dad remembered Saturday at the Amble that one of the family had a cafe there, i am wondering if it was her.. she disappears from 1899 when she got married until 1920 when she is in Brearley Street, i have checked the 1901 and 1911 and i can't find her anywhere one of the cousins mentioned Wainwright Street but i've found no evidence, she had a few shops and a cafe in the city centre too, she certainly didn't want to be found lol
one of the cousins mentioned Wainwright Street but i've found no evidence, she had a few shops and a cafe in the city centre too, she certainly didn't want to be found lol
Claire
There is a Martha Chadwick listed as a burgess (don’t ask me) on the electoral roll (not entitled to vote ) at 39 Hall Road handsworth. She is also listed in kellys (as Mrs Chadwick) at that address in 1900, 1904, 1908,1912, 1913 , but has gone by 1921. In 1899 the occupant of no 39 is listed as Arthur Chadwick, who was not there in 1896.
This looks as if it would fit
mike
There is a Martha Chadwick listed as a burgess (don’t ask me) on the electoral roll (not entitled to vote ) at 39 Hall Road handsworth. She is also listed in kellys (as Mrs Chadwick) at that address in 1900, 1904, 1908,1912, 1913 , but has gone by 1921. In 1899 the occupant of no 39 is listed as Arthur Chadwick, who was not there in 1896.
This looks as if it would fit
mike
claire-brum71
master brummie
Hmmmm that is very interesting Mike, thanks for looking that up (hopefully someone will know what a Burgess is) , it must be her, as she is in Brearley Street in 1920 so her moving from there would fit, she was born 1883 so by 1913 she'd have been eligable to vote so should show from then, someone did find her for me on Brearley Street under Annie, so wonder if she is listed before that as Annie, her husband was William.. i'm going to check my info to see if i can find who Arthur i s years of brickwalls look like they are finally tumbling, thanks Mike you're a star
years of brickwalls look like they are finally tumbling, thanks Mike you're a star
M
mike-g
Guest
Burgess. A Town official similar to a councillor today. Orrigiionally a townsman representing an important town in parliament. ( from a dictionary of old trades ttles and occupations )
claire-brum71
master brummie
Thanks Mike, well that's a turn up for the books, never thought she'd have had a job like that, but then she was an enterprising woman from what i have been told, still can't find her 1901 census tho for Handsworth, strange :stare:
She is on the 1901 census. No sure how its transcribed, but got it from going for an unusual name (Godsill) just down the road and worked back. Its on ancestry Handsworth district 17 p. 11
At 39 there’s Charles, 61 and Martha, 57, Charles is a Webb(?) belt maker footware and an employer and he is born wednesbury and she is born in Redditch. Also there is neice. Dorothy Palmer (15) a merchants clerk also born in redditch
Next door at no 41 is Arthur Chadwick (32) and Annie Till Chadwick (31) with daughter Dorothy Louise Chadwick (1) Arthur born wednesbury and annie in St Georges, salop.
It was me who said that the electoral roll put annie at no 162 in 1920 and 25 with William. Seems a lot of similar names in all this
If you want copies of any of the things then IM me your e-mail and I’ll send them to you. I got told off once by one member when I put a census page on the forum (not by admin) so am reluctant to put them on direct.
mike.
At 39 there’s Charles, 61 and Martha, 57, Charles is a Webb(?) belt maker footware and an employer and he is born wednesbury and she is born in Redditch. Also there is neice. Dorothy Palmer (15) a merchants clerk also born in redditch
Next door at no 41 is Arthur Chadwick (32) and Annie Till Chadwick (31) with daughter Dorothy Louise Chadwick (1) Arthur born wednesbury and annie in St Georges, salop.
It was me who said that the electoral roll put annie at no 162 in 1920 and 25 with William. Seems a lot of similar names in all this
If you want copies of any of the things then IM me your e-mail and I’ll send them to you. I got told off once by one member when I put a census page on the forum (not by admin) so am reluctant to put them on direct.
mike.
claire-brum71
master brummie
Thanks for that Mike i'll go and take a look I saw the Arthur and Annie Till one earlier so if i go into that one i should find the other one by scrolling threw the pages
lencops
gone but not forgotten
Claire- brum71, Thanks for your PM`S, your G/Dad was a fellow worker & friend at Lucas, three of us shared a bench, Jack, myself & Jim Houston an electrician who has lived 27yrs in Torquay he has recently got in touch, a happy coincidence!, i met your G/Mother and i presume your Dad is John, in the photo i am standing on the left of Jack.Len.
claire-brum71
master brummie
Hi Len, yes my dad is John, he is a member of the forum (Tiny is his user name), but he has little time to post much. How great is that you knew Grandad, we still have that signed leaving scroll. I shall let dad know he will be pleased
james houston
Mr Sparks
Hello Claire i remember your grandad with fondest memories,he myself and Len all shared a bench together,his sense of humour was second to none.Jim
