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Machin family Erdington

There is a marriage in 1823 marriage, Charles Machin & Mary Ann Littlehayes. Mary Ann also appears in 1851. Charles is referred to as “Chas junior”, and could strongly strongly imply that an older Charles alive and well-known ?
 
Could they be related further back to the Spooner family (banking - Attwood and Spooner) ? Unusual middle name for Edward. My family sometimes used surnames for middle names, useful for tracking ancestry. Could add to an explanation of where some of their wealth came from.
 
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Pedrocut said:
Charles Machin appears at Blythe House on the 1851 census as farmer and builder, employing 30 men !
He has a son, Charles (26) down as a coal merchant.
GH is 9 at the time, and Edward Spooner 3 years older.
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here is the 61 census...address lichfield road son charles living next door coal merchant

machin 1861.png
 
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