Potter Street, Aston, C1900

[sylviasayers]

Can anyone find Potter Street around 1900. I am pretty sure it is not Potter's Hill, or Potter's Lane. May be around Newtown Row/Summer Lane area.

 

[smtr]

In 1901 it is district 50 sub district St George, Bishop Ryder Parish - RG13 Piece 2845. Other streets in the vicinity, Aston St, Legge St, Fisher St, Digby St.
On the north by Bagot St, on the south by Aston St. On the east by the middle of Legge St and on the west by Lancaster St.

Suzanne

 

[mikejee]

Here it is in c 1905

 

[sylviasayers]

Thank you Suzanne and Mikejee, I can see it is very near where my g. grandfather and family lived in Manchester Street, so not far to walk to work at the Arab Cycle Co.

 

[oldMohawk]

I was looking at this photo c1900 on Shoothill which is captioned 'Site of New Fire Station Potter St, from Lancaster St' and can see the Weights & Measures Office but I cannot seem to locate it on the map in post#3.

 

[mikejee]

The dates given for the maps were publication dates. The survey dates were always earlier. The map was probably around 1900. There is a later map c 1915 (probably surveyed c1913), as below, on which I have marked what must be the Weights and measures office from looking at the directories

 

[Astoness]

great photo phil...funnily enough potter st cropped up on the staniforth st thread yesterday..i have moved this thread to the streets section of the forum

lyn

 

[oldMohawk]

The dates given for the maps were publication dates. The survey dates were always earlier. The map was probably around 1900. There is a later map c 1915 (probably surveyed c1913), as below, on which I have marked what must be the Weights and measures office from looking at the directories

Thanks Mike, I notice your map shows what looks like a little alleyway on the right ... just the first letters of a name showing in the photo.

 

[Phil]

Thanks Mike, I notice your map shows what looks like a little alleyway on the right ... just the first letters of a name showing in the photo.

Phil

I think that is Canvey Passage.

 

[oldMohawk]

Thanks Phil and the forum search finds the other end of it in a forum post here...
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/old-street-pics.38737/page-178#post-520614

 

[Vivienne14]

I did this comparison last week on the Central Fire Station thread (the second photo was posted by aggie2347) And yes, the Fire Station did cover over Potter Street. Below is the photo comparison which might help and is posted at #247 on that thread here https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...ral-fire-station-hq.25493/page-13#post-569219



Viv.

 

[Astoness]

thanks viv..it nice to see what was there before the fire station

lyn

 

[Vivienne14]

Yes Lyn. Found it difficult to place the fire station by just looking at the Potter Street view. A lot was demolished to make way for it. Viv.

 

[mikejee]

Here is a view of Potter Street in 1905. I would suggest that the buildings on th eleft are the ones in red on the 1886 map below

 

[BrummieGeoff]

A later view of Potter Street and the Weights & Measures Offices .... dated as 1932.

 

[Astoness]

A later view of Potter Street and the Weights & Measures Offices .... dated as 1932.

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another great photo...not easy to find

 

[Mark Tooze]

Here is a view of Potter Street in 1905. I would suggest that the buildings on th eleft are the ones in red on the 1886 map below

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What a WONDERFUL photograph this is - there is so much going on in it, and the fact it probably sourced from a glass plate negative means you can zoom in to really examine the detail

 

[Vivienne14]

Yes, agree, Mark. The detail, even down to the rope the girl is holding by the street lamp, shows up. What a sad state the buildings were in by 1905. The steps up to the front entrances on the left have gone. You have to wonder if these were originally very poorly built buildings. They can't have been more than 100 years old by the time of the photo.

 

[Mark Tooze]

Each of these 3 people would have their own very different tales to tell about life in 1905 - it would have been great to hear them.........

 

[A Sparks]

Yes indeed @Mark Tooze
I wonder what they would think about people looking at a photo of them all these years later?! They wouldn't have imagined the world in 2025!

 

[Astoness]

looking at the map there does not seem to be too many houses in potter st so just out of interest i wonder if we could find potter st on the 1901 census....i am certain the living conditions would have been very bad as was most of that area

lyn

 

[brummy-lad]

looking at the map there does not seem to be too many houses in potter st so just out of interest i wonder if we could find potter st on the 1901 census....i am certain the living conditions would have been very bad as was most of that area

lyn

Yes Lyn

 

[brummy-lad]

Potter Street map 1892-1914 and Kelly's listing of 1908.
Reed's passage is mentioned on the 1901 census and can be seen on the right of the image in post #14.

 

[brummy-lad]

An aerial view from 1937 showing the last remnants of Potter Street.

 

[Astoness]

An aerial view from 1937 showing the last remnants of Potter Street.

thanks john...some of these aerial views are very good

lyn

 

[BrummieGeoff]

This photo shows a row of old houses in Potter Street. I believe it's one of the series of photos taken by James Burgoyne showing sites that would be affected by the construction of Corporation Street. That development started in the 1870's, but the section that crossed Potter Street was not completed until the early 1900's.

 

[Astoness]

This photo shows a row of old houses in Potter Street. I believe it's one of the series of photos taken by James Burgoyne showing sites that would be affected by the construction of Corporation Street. That development started in the 1870's, but the section that crossed Potter Street was not completed until the early 1900's.

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if the location is correct i wonder what side of the street this was taken as looking at other photos of it i cant see any houses with attics unless they were added to the houses shown on post 15

lyn

 

[BrummieGeoff]

This photo of the junction of Steelhouse Lane and Lancaster Street shows the end of Potter Street in the background. The shop on the corner of Lancaster Street and Potter Street is S J Rose Cycles, which has replaced the Old Green Man PH. It's dated as c1900.

 

[BrummieGeoff]

if the location is correct i wonder what side of the street this was taken as looking at other photos of it i cant see any houses with attics unless they were added to the houses shown on post 15

lyn

Difficult to say. But if they were being demolished to build that section of Corporation Street, then they would have been near to Lancaster Street.

 

[brummy-lad]

This photo shows a row of old houses in Potter Street. I believe it's one of the series of photos taken by James Burgoyne showing sites that would be affected by the construction of Corporation Street. That development started in the 1870's, but the section that crossed Potter Street was not completed until the early 1900's.

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Great image and so atmospheric.
Distinguishing feature are: 5 x terraced houses, entry to court at the rear, path/road on the right of the houses and signposted road/entrance on the left-hand side of them.
No houses on the 1892-1914 map fit this image but there is a possibility on the 1839 map which unfortunately is not greatly detailed.