Brearley Street Newtown.

[cjk]

Thanks for showing photo's. My grandad lived at no 22 Brearley street.

so did my great nan.1918

 

[cjk]

Nick,
Kevin Rudd did give a personel apology,to these abused children,the compensation aspect is probably another matter...we'll see.

which children was abused ?? my nan was lived at 22

 

[cjk]

morning mike..thanks for that..my first pic on post 100 show 105 to 127 brearley st.... so my original pic waiting for the royal visit would have been taken on the opposite side of the stag pub..roughly opposite st chads school i would imagine...think ive more or less got me bearings now...

lyn

where do i see these pics please

 

[Morturn]

Hi cjk ad welcome to the Birmingham Hisotry Forum. Member Ray Barret is now deceased so will not be able to reply to your enquiry.

 

[Astoness]

where do i see these pics please

images posted before about sept 2010 we lost due to the forum being hacked...however if you start at post 106 a lot have been reposted hope this helps

lyn

 

[cjk]

Hi cjk ad welcome to the Birmingham Hisotry Forum. Member Ray Barret is now deceased so will not be able to reply to your enquiry.

oh dear ..ok thanks

 

[mikejee]

Children playing on Brearley Street

 

[Pedrocut]

Birmingham Mail, January 1940. Nursery School.

 

[www.midlandspubs.co.uk]

Birmingham Mail, January 1940. Nursery School.


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I have put my tuppenny's worth on this and some other buildings at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/brearley-street/

 

[Astoness]

Birmingham Mail, January 1940. Nursery School.


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thanks pedro...all of my 4 children attended the nursery and our mom was a cleaner there

lyn

 

[Astoness]

I have put my tuppenny's worth on this and some other buildings at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/brearley-street/

thanks keiron going to have a proper look later on but just quickly looking at the list of pubs you have was the star and garters address at gt hampton row as opposed to brearley st west..ps will get those promised photos to you tonight

lyn

 

[www.midlandspubs.co.uk]

thanks keiron going to have a proper look later on but just quickly looking at the list of pubs you have was the star and garters address at gt hampton row as opposed to brearley st west..ps will get those promised photos to you tonight

lyn

Hi Lyn, I am putting the S&G in Great Hampton Row. Both trade directories and licensing books list it in GHR.

 

[Astoness]

thanks kieron i thought that was the case

lyn

 

[MWS]

Was it the 1960s when Brearley St (Great Hampton Row end) was cleared/renovated?

Thanks

 

[Astoness]

Was it the 1960s when Brearley St (Great Hampton Row end) was cleared/renovated?

Thanks

yes i would say so mark because we moved to uxbridge st in 71 and our house was built on where that part of brearley st once was

lyn

 

[MWS]

Thanks Lyn. My (step) grandparents moved from there (246) to Yardley and I thought it was about then.

 

[Astoness]

Thanks Lyn. My (step) grandparents moved from there (246) to Yardley and I thought it was about then.

my aunt lived in that section of the street mark cant recall the number but i think it was almost next to the star and garter pub which was on the corner i think with gt hampton row..its just bought to mind that one day workmen had to dig up the pavement outside our house in uxbridge st and they found an old silver spoon which must have belonged to one of the brearley st residents..i will stand to be corrected here but i think at some point (maybe way back ) that part of the st was called brearley st west...maybe just by the locals so i would have to check that one out

lyn

 

[MWS]

Not too far away then. My (step) great grandmother ran a grocery shop there in the 1930s.

There appear to be lots of mentions of Brearley St West in the papers so you're probably right.

 

[Astoness]

you may already have this mark but a map showing 246 and only a few feet from the star and garter pub...asked mike to send me the map

lyn

 

[Memory Lane]

Does anyone know of a Brierley Street in Birmingham? On 1881 census Coxson family were living at number 70 but I cannot find the street in A-Z. Some Coxsons were gunmakers, could it have been near the gun quarter? any suggestions welcome.

 

[Morturn]

Its still there just off New John Street West and it would be fair to say near or in the Gun Quarter.

 

[MWS]

Here's a link to the 1889 map. Part of Brearley St is at the very top, mainly to the right of Summer Lane. 1891 census puts court no. 18 (marked) between nos. 68 and 70 (going right to left), so probably somewhere in that vicinity...

View map: Ordnance Survey, OS town plan - Birmingham and its Environs - sheet XIV.1.17 - Ordnance Survey Town Plans of England and Wales, 1840s-1890s

 

[brummy-lad]

On the 1881 census the house numbers are consecutive and the listing is:
307half Summer Lane, then Brearley Street 51 to 62 (consecutive), Court14 (11 houses), 63 to 65, Court 15 (5 houses), 66, Court 16 (6 houses), 67, 68, Court 17 (4 houses), 69, 70.

Court 14 is fairly unique as it has 11 houses but even with that information it's very difficult to pinpoint No. 70.

 

[mikejee]

In 1881, before the street was renumbered, The Nelson pub was no 79. Now this seems to occupy 2 plots so strictly speaking it might b elabelled 79-80, or 78-79, or might be a double plot. From this it would seem that no 70 must be either the green or blue buildings marked on th emap below. I would consider the green one the most likely as this seems more like a private house

 

[Memory Lane]

Its still there just off New John Street West and it would be fair to say near or in the Gun Quarter. View attachment 178551View attachment 178552

thank you, the difference in spelling Brierley/Brearley may just be error on the census I'm guessing .... Thanks for your help, this location makes sense, seems that generations of my family lived and worked within the same small area of Aston throughout 1800s and up to end of WW2.

 

[Memory Lane]

In 1881, before the street was renumbered, The Nelson pub was no 79. Now this seems to occupy 2 plots so strictly speaking it might b elabelled 79-80, or 78-79, or might be a double plot. From this it would seem that no 70 must be either the green or blue buildings marked on th emap below. I would consider the green one the most likely as this seems more like a private house
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Thank you mikejee for highlighting no 70, I guess the Nelson was their local then

 

[Memory Lane]

On the 1881 census the house numbers are consecutive and the listing is:
307half Summer Lane, then Brearley Street 51 to 62 (consecutive), Court14 (11 houses), 63 to 65, Court 15 (5 houses), 66, Court 16 (6 houses), 67, 68, Court 17 (4 houses), 69, 70.

Court 14 is fairly unique as it has 11 houses but even with that information it's very difficult to pinpoint No. 70.

Thank you, I'm happy to know the street location

 

[Memory Lane]

Here's a link to the 1889 map. Part of Brearley St is at the very top, mainly to the right of Summer Lane. 1891 census puts court no. 18 (marked) between nos. 68 and 70 (going right to left), so probably somewhere in that vicinity...

View map: Ordnance Survey, OS town plan - Birmingham and its Environs - sheet XIV.1.17 - Ordnance Survey Town Plans of England and Wales, 1840s-1890s

Thank you for the link, lots of information on the map, I can see the gun and pistol works off Summer Lane, so seems likely they could have worked there. Fascinating to see these locations and link them to families/individuals.

 

[mikejee]

I should point out that no 70 is not on the part of Brearly st on Mortum's map, but further to the west. It is shown with the same houses marked in blue and green on the c1902 map below

 

[brummy-lad]

I started compiling this map the other day to work out the house numbers prior to renumbering, hopefully it will be of use to somebody in the future. It appears smaller courts were combined into one large court and many courts were obliterated by factories. Census source for this was 1881, Birmingham, St Georges, Districts 5, 11, 14, 19, 29 & 64.