Fulford brewers

[Claireg]

Hi Jane and Sachka- not sure if you still come on here but I was Tigerlily! I am the GG Grandaughter of Elizabeth Ann Fulford - she is the sister of William Henry & Samuel.
Sachka - Lucy Ellen was another sibling born a year before William Henry.
I think the Fulford's come from a very long line of Victuallers and brewers in Birmingham! It would be nice to be in contact with you both so we can share info and the family tree... Take care & thanks!

 

[Sachka]

Hi Tigerlily, i haven’t been on here for a while but now have in my possession our family bible. I reckon it may have been a gift for Lucy Ellen Fulford, who was my GG Grandmother. I have tried to trace BMD through free search, but it looks like she was married to Richard Walter Beaumont in 1873, then sadly it seems she had two baby boys who died shortly after birth, plus her husband died in1877, same year as one of the babies, perhaps an illness took them both. She remarried Adam Hyslop in 1878, sadly again gave birth in 1879 to another baby boy only to lose him too. In 1880 she did give birth yet again to Alfred Hyslop, luckily he survived. Alfred was my Great Grandfather. Unfortunately I do not know who Lucy Ellen’s siblings or parents were. It would be lovely if the gaps could be filled in. Regards. Sachka

 

[Jane fulford]

Hi Jane and Sachka- not sure if you still come on here but I was Tigerlily! I am the GG Grandaughter of Elizabeth Ann Fulford - she is the sister of William Henry & Samuel.
Sachka - Lucy Ellen was another sibling born a year before William Henry.
I think the Fulford's come from a very long line of Victuallers and brewers in Birmingham! It would be nice to be in contact with you both so we can share info and the family tree... Take care & thanks!

Hi Claire so v sorry this has taken so long but better late than never my email address is janefulford1@gmail.com and I would love to hear from you and share. I have tons more info and we must connect J

 

[Jane fulford]

Hi Jane, I have a family Bible, on researching my ancestry, it seems that William Henry Fulford re Empress Brewery, Manchester was my x4 Great Grandfather, his daughter was Lucy Ellen Fulford, who married Richard Walter Beaumont, after his death married Adam Hyslop. If anyone could verify any of this information or add too, I would be most grateful. Regards. Sachka

Sachka I would very much love to connect and apologies it has taken me so long to revisit here to respond. I would dearly love have more info re the Bible and I have so much more info now. As Claire has stated, Lucy Ellen b. 1843 , was the older sister of William Henry not daughter.
My email address is janefulford1@gmail.com and I so hope we can talk.

 

[Jane fulford]

hello jane..its been a while since you checked the forum and this may not mean anything to you or there again it may..

with the help of mikejee i have been compiling a list of past landlords of the bull pub price st/loveday st for the present landlady and noted that between 1849 and 1876 the landlord was a john fulford...then 1878 to 1897 it was john fulford and son as landlords...john fulford was also a maltster and hop dealer so i was wondering if he was your rellie...just a thought

lyn

Lyn

hello jane..its been a while since you checked the forum and this may not mean anything to you or there again it may..

with the help of mikejee i have been compiling a list of past landlords of the bull pub price st/loveday st for the present landlady and noted that between 1849 and 1876 the landlord was a john fulford...then 1878 to 1897 it was john fulford and son as landlords...john fulford was also a maltster and hop dealer so i was wondering if he was your rellie...just a thought

lyn

hi again Lyn sry re the long gap but I had problems signing in and lost my thread as it were. Tx so much for your thoughts and now I’m back into it again.
It seems that William Henry Fulford and his brother Samuel my great grandfather who ran the Empress Brewery etc, father was Joseph Fulford who originated in Birmingham. I have now established that his father was a John Fulford b @ 1786 and married to Ann Hall b@1796
John is on various records as a publican Victualler and states the address as canal st. I have no idea of the name of the pub he was landlord of but I was v interested in the thread discussion re whether canal st is the same as the current New canal St or different?
I’ve lots more info and it’s v exciting. I will be coming to visit birmingham in July sometime and wondered if there are any regular meeting times of the forum and whether I could connect with anyone.
Apologies for the vv long delay and hoping you are well Jane Fulford

 

[jmadone]

Sachka I would very much love to connect and apologies it has taken me so long to revisit here to respond. I would dearly love have more info re the Bible and I have so much more info now. As Claire has stated, Lucy Ellen b. 1843 , was the older sister of William Henry not daughter.
My email address is janefulford1@gmail.com and I so hope we can talk.

 

[Jane fulford]

Hi Tigerlily, i haven’t been on here for a while but now have in my possession our family bible. I reckon it may have been a gift for Lucy Ellen Fulford, who was my GG Grandmother. I have tried to trace BMD through free search, but it looks like she was married to Richard Walter Beaumont in 1873, then sadly it seems she had two baby boys who died shortly after birth, plus her husband died in1877, same year as one of the babies, perhaps an illness took them both. She remarried Adam Hyslop in 1878, sadly again gave birth in 1879 to another baby boy only to lose him too. In 1880 she did give birth yet again to Alfred Hyslop, luckily he survived. Alfred was my Great Grandfather. Unfortunately I do not know who Lucy Ellen’s siblings or parents were. It would be lovely if the gaps could be filled in. Regards. Sachka

Hi again
I can fill in tons of the gaps for you but u may already be aware now .. talk soon I hope Jane Fulford

 

[mikejee]

Jane. Glad you have returned to the forum. Lyn is away in the wilds for a few days so will probably not see your message till she returns. The forum does have meets. the next is on April 20th , which is too early for you. Am not sure when the one after will be

 

[Jane fulford]

Jane. Glad you have returned to the forum. Lyn is away in the wilds for a few days so will probably not see your message till she returns. The forum does have meets. the next is on April 20th , which is too early for you. Am not sure when the one after will be

I am just back on April 17 my dad Derrick Fulford’s 90 th Birthday. I was aiming for July to come visit so we shall see. Thanks again v much and I’m looking forward to getting more involved in the forum
Best wishes Jane Fulford

Lyn

hi again Lyn sry re the long gap but I had problems signing in and lost my thread as it were. Tx so much for your thoughts and now I’m back into it again.
It seems that William Henry Fulford and his brother Samuel my great grandfather who ran the Empress Brewery etc, father was Joseph Fulford who originated in Birmingham. I have now established that his father was a John Fulford b @ 1786 and married to Ann Hall b@1796
John is on various records as a publican Victualler and states the address as canal st. I have no idea of the name of the pub he was landlord of but I was v interested in the thread discussion re whether canal st is the same as the current New canal St or different?
I’ve lots more info and it’s v exciting. I will be coming to visit birmingham in July sometime and wondered if there are any regular meeting times of the forum and whether I could connect with anyone.
Apologies for the vv long delay and hoping you are well Jane Fulford

ive been loooking again at how close Great Hampton Row where the brewery was located and how close this is to Mott street and also loveday/price street where the Bull is. I think it is likely to be our John Fulford running the Bull at that time. Canal street is listed as a place of abode and I’m still wondering if this is the New canal street or a separate street as discussed in a previous thread.
Regards Jane