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Wolseley Motor company employee records between 1907 - 1920

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Rachelmjones

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Hello, I am new here. I am looking for employment records for the Wolseley works between 1907 and 1920. The reason is that my Great grandfather Albert Joseph Jones is listed on his marriage certificate and 1921 census was that he was a general labourer at Wolseley motors at Arden Road. I do not know much about his family. I am wondering if records exist that describe his next of kin, his working history and home address. I know he is from wales and was in Bordesley Green in 1920. I assumed he wasn’t conscripted as he has no war info, so he must have worked at the factory during WW1. I am stuck because I have no birth certificate (just his Father is there) and the census shows him with his wife and children in 1921. I have his marriage certificate living at Green, in 1920, he stays registered at that address until his death certificate in 1934.

Did they put the records online, did they get destroyed or are they in an archive somewhere in Birmingham? I am trying to find out my Great Grandfather’s family details in Llandrindod (hopefully from the Wolseley works records) and understand how long he worked in Birmingham and the timeline for where he lived and worked in Birmingham.

Thank you!
 
What was his father's name and occupation on his marriage certificate?

And does his age when he marries match that on the 1921?
 
MWS said:
What was his father's name and occupation on his marriage certificate?

And does his age when he marries match that on the 1921?
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Thanks, his Father was Joseph Jones, deceased by 1920 and a railway foreman (but that could have been in Llandrindod). Yes his age is accurate to both the documents. Albert Joseph Jones is on both the census and marriage certificate so the full name is consistent.
 
I'm sure it won't be a surprise to you but I can't find anyone that is even remotely likely. The 2 Alberts of a close age in the Llandrindod area in 1881 have fathers not named Joseph.

I'd speculate that there has to be something incorrect on the 1921 census - name, age, place of birth - though you would think that was unlikely if he filled it in himself. He could have deliberately changed something I suppose but impossible to know.

The closest I came across was an Albert Jones b1878 Aston on the 1881, the son of a Joseph Jones, listed as railway carriage fitter.

One thing I forgot to ask was, was he single or widowed when he married?
 
MWS said:
I'm sure it won't be a surprise to you but I can't find anyone that is even remotely likely. The 2 Alberts of a close age in the Llandrindod area in 1881 have fathers not named Joseph.

I'd speculate that there has to be something incorrect on the 1921 census - name, age, place of birth - though you would think that was unlikely if he filled it in himself. He could have deliberately changed something I suppose but impossible to know.

The closest I came across was an Albert Jones b1878 Aston on the 1881, the son of a Joseph Jones, listed as railway carriage fitter.

One thing I forgot to ask was, was he single or widowed when he married?
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He is down as a bachelor so definitely unmarried. I suppose people did lie but he was down as aged 45 years and 3 months. I know the census date from the national archives is 19 June 1921: that means he must have been born mid march onwards of the content is true.

Thank you, it is so appreciated.
 
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Hopefully those employment records exist somewhere and are useful.

I see the death of Helen's first husband is mentioned in the Bham newspapers and gives the 2 bk 234 address, so Albert must have moved in to her house.

I suppose Albert's address or the witnesses on the marriage are of no help?
 
MWS said:
Hopefully those employment records exist somewhere and are useful.

I see the death of Helen's first husband is mentioned in the Bham newspapers and gives the 2 bk 234 address, so Albert must have moved in to her house.
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Yes that is right. The family were there from the death in 1915 at least until 1934. Thank you. I think those employment records are my only key to unlocking key information. Thanks for your help!
 
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