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Which regiment?
- Thread starter Charlie
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brummie nick
master brummie
With only that information, I don't think so Charlie.
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
Charlie
Being born in 1879 and been in the Regular Army he could have seen service in the Boer War, then become a reservist and then served in WW1. There are 71 men with the name Samuel Chapman whose names are listed in the Medal Card Index for WW1.
Terry
Being born in 1879 and been in the Regular Army he could have seen service in the Boer War, then become a reservist and then served in WW1. There are 71 men with the name Samuel Chapman whose names are listed in the Medal Card Index for WW1.
Terry
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
Charlie
The Medal Index Cards are just for a service man's medal entitlement. They give name, number and regiment, which theatre of war the man served in i.e. France/Belgium, Mesopotamia, Salonika etc etc. Also men who went on active service before the end of December 1915, it gives the date they left the country to qualify for the 1915 Star. There are no addresses or personal details.
Terry
The Link to the National Archives site is below. It costs £3:50 to look at one card.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=first_name%3dsamuel%7clast_name%3dchapman&catid=10&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*
The Medal Index Cards are just for a service man's medal entitlement. They give name, number and regiment, which theatre of war the man served in i.e. France/Belgium, Mesopotamia, Salonika etc etc. Also men who went on active service before the end of December 1915, it gives the date they left the country to qualify for the 1915 Star. There are no addresses or personal details.
Terry
The Link to the National Archives site is below. It costs £3:50 to look at one card.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchtype=browserefine&query=first_name%3dsamuel%7clast_name%3dchapman&catid=10&pagenumber=1&querytype=1&mediaarray=*
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
Charlie
searching Ancestry Uk I found a Samual Chapman born 1879, New Bilton, Rugby, Warwickshire.
He enlisted into the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry in Feb 1900. No.6227. He was a Sgt in WW1.
Terry
searching Ancestry Uk I found a Samual Chapman born 1879, New Bilton, Rugby, Warwickshire.
He enlisted into the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry in Feb 1900. No.6227. He was a Sgt in WW1.
Terry
Charlie
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Thanks for all your help Terry. Colin B found that one on Ancestry for me, but grandad was born in Birmingham (it says on his marriage cert), although his father was born not far from Rugby. Grandad's father married a widow (Phoebe Sutton) in 1880 and grandad was born in 1879 so.........?
Charlie
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Yes, that's the family Barrie. I meant to say, of course, that it was on the census that stated Samuel was born in Birmingham. Harry (Henry) Chapman and Phoebe Sutton weren't married until 1880 though - and there is a son (Thomas) that was born in 1863. Phoebe was a widow (b1845) so it could have been a son from that marriage and he's taken Harry's name. In which case, I s'pose grandad could also have been from her previous marriage. Or maybe he was just a bit..er..'previous'!
Does it say Thomas was born in Wolverhampton, or is it Northampton? I can't quite make it out - might give me clue somewhere down the line.
Oh..why do they do this to us?
Does it say Thomas was born in Wolverhampton, or is it Northampton? I can't quite make it out - might give me clue somewhere down the line.
Oh..why do they do this to us?
S
sarah7984
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Hi.Out of curiosity do you think you could possibly find a Pte. G. T. HICKEN of the royal warwickshire Regt. for me please. He volunteered in Jan 1915 and went to the western front in the march. He took part in Battles of Neuve chapelle, Hill 60, Ypres and festubert. June 1916 he was discharged as medically unfit. He received the 1914-15 star and the general service and victory medals.
I would be so grateful of any information you can find. Thanks.
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
George T Hicken 10758
Hello Sarah
George T Hicken, No.10758, served in the Regular Army 2nd Bn The Royal Warwickshire Regiment. I see you have his details from the 'Birmingham Roll of the Great War'. I can supply you with the movements of the battalion until he was wounded at the battle of Loos, September 25, 1915. His name was published (wrongly as E Hickman) in the Birmingham Daily Post Casualty list on 16 october 1915.
Terry
Hello Sarah
George T Hicken, No.10758, served in the Regular Army 2nd Bn The Royal Warwickshire Regiment. I see you have his details from the 'Birmingham Roll of the Great War'. I can supply you with the movements of the battalion until he was wounded at the battle of Loos, September 25, 1915. His name was published (wrongly as E Hickman) in the Birmingham Daily Post Casualty list on 16 october 1915.
Terry
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sarah7984
Guest
THANKYOU!!!!:grinsmile::grinsmile:
That is fantastic!!! any information at all on G.T. HICKEN would be brilliant as what i found was a small passage in THE NATIONAL ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR 1914-15 and it wasnt a lot at all so anything else is a bonus!
THANKYOU!!!!!
your fantastic!!
That is fantastic!!! any information at all on G.T. HICKEN would be brilliant as what i found was a small passage in THE NATIONAL ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR 1914-15 and it wasnt a lot at all so anything else is a bonus!
THANKYOU!!!!!
your fantastic!!
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
G T Hickman
Sarah
I have emailed you. Before joining the 2nd Warwicks he enlisted into the Kings Royal Rifle Corps and was discharged because his 34.5 inch chest measurement was under the standard required at the time.
Terry
Sarah
I have emailed you. Before joining the 2nd Warwicks he enlisted into the Kings Royal Rifle Corps and was discharged because his 34.5 inch chest measurement was under the standard required at the time.
Terry
Charlie
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
After a bit of research from a friend, I now know that grandad Sam was in the Yorks Regt. I know he was a regular soldier, he was born in 1878 and doesn't appear on the 1901 census, so I'm assuming he was in the Army then. He died in the 1940s, so came through WW1 OK and as a sergeant.
Here's his medal card: I can make out Theatre of War plus name rank and number, can anyone else tell me what the rest of it means please - and how I can find out more about his service before and after WW1?
Many thanks.
Here's his medal card: I can make out Theatre of War plus name rank and number, can anyone else tell me what the rest of it means please - and how I can find out more about his service before and after WW1?
Many thanks.
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terry carter
Birmingham Pals
9 Sept 1915 is the date he qualified for his 1915 Star or the date he embarked for France. If he had joined one of the Kitchener's New Army battalions of the Yorkshire Regiment, then the 10th Bn Yorkshire Regt, landed in Boulogne, France on 10 September 1915.
Terry
p.s.
Class Z Reserve was authorised by an Army Order of 3 December 1918. There were fears that Germany would not accept the terms of any peace treaty, and therefore the British Government decided it would be wise to be able to quickly recall trained men in the eventuality of the resumption of hostilities. Soldiers who were being demobilised, particularly those who had agreed to serve "for the duration", were at first posted to Class Z. They returned to civilian life but with an obligation to return if called upon. The Z Reserve was abolished on 31 March 1920.
Terry
p.s.
Class Z Reserve was authorised by an Army Order of 3 December 1918. There were fears that Germany would not accept the terms of any peace treaty, and therefore the British Government decided it would be wise to be able to quickly recall trained men in the eventuality of the resumption of hostilities. Soldiers who were being demobilised, particularly those who had agreed to serve "for the duration", were at first posted to Class Z. They returned to civilian life but with an obligation to return if called upon. The Z Reserve was abolished on 31 March 1920.
Graham
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
Hi Terry,
Do you know anything about Word War Two? My mum became a widow at the battle of El Alamein on the 30th May 1942. https://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=4040977 As a child I can remember the ARP tin box where my mother kept all her memories in, memories that she never ever talked about. When the coast was clear I would look through these photos and in this box there was also a string of medals from Edwin that she later sold to help feed the 5 kids she was left with.
Now I was wondering if you know of anyway that I can find out just what medals he was awarded in WW II. I remember that there were several, I think some from India and Africa.
Graham.
Do you know anything about Word War Two? My mum became a widow at the battle of El Alamein on the 30th May 1942. https://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=4040977 As a child I can remember the ARP tin box where my mother kept all her memories in, memories that she never ever talked about. When the coast was clear I would look through these photos and in this box there was also a string of medals from Edwin that she later sold to help feed the 5 kids she was left with.
Now I was wondering if you know of anyway that I can find out just what medals he was awarded in WW II. I remember that there were several, I think some from India and Africa.
Graham.
Lloyd
master brummie
From https://www.ww2cemeteries.co.uk/research.htm
Government Office Buildings
Worcester Road
Droitwich Spa
Worcestershire
WR9 8AU
WW2 Campaign & Gallantry Medals
There are no on-line medal rolls available yet. Campaign medals have to be traced via the Army Medal Office, and other services via the addresses above. Contact details for the Army Medal Office:
Army Medal Office
Government Office Buildings
Worcester Road
Droitwich Spa
Worcestershire
WR9 8AU
a big hello, to you all, i am looking for info on 2,man they were both in ww1, both were wounded & taken to dudley rd hospital,, one was called PATRICK SHARKEY, thee other was WILLIAM NICHOLL, if anyone can help with info please do, many thanks, in advance,...all the best,....christy
terry carter
Birmingham Pals
There are 8 men listed on Ancestry with the name Patrick Sharkey can you be more specific about him.... regiment, number etc.
The same about William Nicholl also. There are quite a few to choose from.
Terry
The same about William Nicholl also. There are quite a few to choose from.
Terry
thanks,terry, patrick sharkey was in a irish regiment, he was from n,ireland,royal irish rifles,age 18, william nicholl, came from dumfries, scotland, his regiment sunderland highlanders, not to sure of the spelling, he lost his arm in france,1918, they were both treated in birmingham dudley rd, i will get there numbers, tonight, [sat] again thanks terry, for your help,...regards....christy...
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hi,everyone, doe,s anyone have any photos of the THE DUKE OF CORNWALL,S LIGHT INFANTRY 1st BATTILION, MY GRANDAD SERVED IN THIS REGIMENT FOR 17,YEARS,[1928-1945], WE HAVE ONLY PHOTOS, WITH NO NAMES ON? HIS NAME IN THE ARMY WAS JACK PREEN, HIS FOUND OUT HIS REAL NAME WHEN HE MARRIED IN 1940, JOHN EDWARD NEWMAN, IS THERE ANY PHOTOS OF THE REGIMENT ON PARADE. SOME WHERE AROUND THE WORLD?. with there name,s on a photo. there office in bodmen don,t seam to have any? take care,....christy..