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db84124
Brummophile
Sorry, Lyn.
I know that Thos. Walker & Son, Ltd - that makes instruments to measure how far a ship/boat has travelled, and, knowing the time taken, its speed - used to be at 58, Oxford Street. They are still trading as Thomas Walker & Son from 37-41 Bissell Street, Birmingham, B5 7HR. Could there be some connection with your Old Ship Works and this ships' instrument company which used to be off Digbeth? David
I know that Thos. Walker & Son, Ltd - that makes instruments to measure how far a ship/boat has travelled, and, knowing the time taken, its speed - used to be at 58, Oxford Street. They are still trading as Thomas Walker & Son from 37-41 Bissell Street, Birmingham, B5 7HR. Could there be some connection with your Old Ship Works and this ships' instrument company which used to be off Digbeth? David
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Tacitus
master brummie
Just throwing in an idea - but is this possibly an inn called the Old Ship which has been converted for manufacturing use.
The ship weathervane seems indicative of that.
And the archway could be the entrance to the yard of a coaching inn.
Can anyone check for an inn called the Old Ship in Birmingham in e.g. the late Georgian/early Victorian era?
Sorry if this is a complete red herring!!
T
The ship weathervane seems indicative of that.
And the archway could be the entrance to the yard of a coaching inn.
Can anyone check for an inn called the Old Ship in Birmingham in e.g. the late Georgian/early Victorian era?
Sorry if this is a complete red herring!!
T
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Wendy
Guest
Maybe a clue here........https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6909&highlight=Ship+inn
Tacitus
master brummie
Lyn
I think I am close to an answer here.
There is a copy of the book that this comes from - Our Own Country - on Google Books.
It only has "snippet view" and at first I couldn't get to the detail of this print.
But I finally tricked it into giving me what I wanted.
It reads: . . . the engraving of the Old Ship Works (Messrs Barrs' umbrella ribs and furniture), which will shortly be pulled down, may be taken as a type of the older more simple style (of manufactory).
In the 1860's William Barrs & Son, umbrella manufacturers were at 7, Edmund Street. In the 1870's the address given is New Edmund Street.
I know lots of those old Georgian buildings close to the City Centre were cleared away around 1880 - but don't know if that would have included Edmund Street.
Still needs a bit more work by someone but Edmund Street is a STRONG possibility.
T
I think I am close to an answer here.
There is a copy of the book that this comes from - Our Own Country - on Google Books.
It only has "snippet view" and at first I couldn't get to the detail of this print.
But I finally tricked it into giving me what I wanted.
It reads: . . . the engraving of the Old Ship Works (Messrs Barrs' umbrella ribs and furniture), which will shortly be pulled down, may be taken as a type of the older more simple style (of manufactory).
In the 1860's William Barrs & Son, umbrella manufacturers were at 7, Edmund Street. In the 1870's the address given is New Edmund Street.
I know lots of those old Georgian buildings close to the City Centre were cleared away around 1880 - but don't know if that would have included Edmund Street.
Still needs a bit more work by someone but Edmund Street is a STRONG possibility.
T
Lloyd
master brummie
Bingley Works, King Edward Place - did this become the Bingley Hall?
Edmund St is one of those streets that have been split , had parts called different names and then joined together again. In the 1870s up to 1878 the listing in New Edmund St (earlier it was Edmund St) was:
7 Barrs Wm. & Son, mnfrs. of umbrella ribs, stretchers &c. (Ship works).
In 1879 no 7 was not listed . then in 1880 new Edmund and Edmund Streeet were amalgamated, and a large number of the businesses (though not all) immediately surrounding no 7 disappeared. As no decent map is available for the perood, it is not possible to completely nail down exactly where the building was, except to say it was on the north side of Edmund St between NewHall St and Congeve St, and I would guess, though I can’t be absolutely certain, that it was between Newhall St and what later became Margaret St
mike
7 Barrs Wm. & Son, mnfrs. of umbrella ribs, stretchers &c. (Ship works).
In 1879 no 7 was not listed . then in 1880 new Edmund and Edmund Streeet were amalgamated, and a large number of the businesses (though not all) immediately surrounding no 7 disappeared. As no decent map is available for the perood, it is not possible to completely nail down exactly where the building was, except to say it was on the north side of Edmund St between NewHall St and Congeve St, and I would guess, though I can’t be absolutely certain, that it was between Newhall St and what later became Margaret St
mike
Tacitus
master brummie
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Wendy
Guest
There are a few pictures of Edmund Street here https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8936&page=2&highlight=Edmund
cuppateabiscuit
master brummie
I know this thread was being discussed a while ago, but I was just researching the image you're discussing and William Barrs and son moved to 47 Princip Street in about 1879 and is listed from then to at least 1882 at that address. Considering the image is 1880, if the image is Barrs 'Ship Works' then it is possibly Princip Street. Of course, because it says the 'Old Ship Works' it could be the original one on Edmund Street that had perhaps been knocked down by 1880. I hope that's helpful, but I'm suspecting not so much: just another option!!