Hi astoness
theres no question on the mannor taveren john as got the true info ,
i was missing when this one came on the forum ,it most certainly the mannor i reconised it straight away, for the simple reason i was born on the door steps of the pub just on the corner of lichfeild rd right next to the widdows arms which is just across the rd and when i grew up i worked next door at buttons ltd anddrank most nights in the mannor
even thou the old man [my] ran the golden cross at aston cross
and as a kid guy fawkes out side knew quite afew familys down wainwright st, and portland st freinds as well down the terrace ,
best wishes to you all astonian ,;;