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Where is This? 148

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
This time its slightly harder, once you have worked out where it is I then want you to tell me the connection of this shop with an event in Birmingham's history.

Phil
 

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morning phil...harder..??? they are never easy for me...lol...

ive no idea but i will watch with interest.....

lyn
 
Phil:

I'm not sure where it is, but was the owner done for having a load of explosives in the building?

Maurice
 
Maurice that wouldn't be Holte road would it? only our neighbour got done and banged up in prison. Jean.
 
No idea where,however, the blokes seem to be wearing their Sunday best.Could it be something to do with Sunday trading hours?.
 
Dunno, Jean, I just seem to remember seeing something on the Forum a long time ago about explosives being found in a flat over a shop. Can't find anything on Google linking explosives with Holte Road though.

Just taken a closer look and the top halves of both the shop and the two houses to the left have different brickwork. Where they rebuilt as a result of war damage perhaps? And are those tramlines in the road? Beyond that I'm flummoxed - never was much good at these sort of puzzles - been away from Brum for too long!

Maurice
 
The family owned a shop too. My brother did a write up alongside my family article and included this in Carl's December Brumagem. Will copy it for you later. Jean. Makes interesting reading Maurice. Bye. Jean.
 
Astonian, your memory is much better than mine! I really can't remember. My father lived much of his life in Alston Street, but I never heard him mention anything about it.

Maurice
 
yes i was a kid at the time of the shop he got raided donkey years ago
when the area started to get the slum cleareance it was one of the lat to go
i knew the area very well wheni was akid after the war we used to go in the old bombed house down the cellers lookingfor helmets and old gas masked and any think we could find did you remember the old picture house in ledsam street ? ,
sosipiri I can remember when they first built the very first block of flats in that area
and seen the blocks of flats being built one by one until the whole entire place of lady wood was over run , by these discusting sites
i went up staple lodge road the other day whilst in birmingham
we thought that when knocking down the old area of staple lodge and building new
houses .how wrong was we , if you look at them closel they are no better than the one they got rid of , they are yet again tommorrows slums
so compact and cramed intogether like the back to back houses of yesterdays
best wishes astonian ;;
 
Can I just say that you are in the wrong area and on the wrong track. Its a little early for a clue just yet. Lets wait until some of those poor folk who have to go out to work get home.

Phil
 
Astonian:

No, I didn't know the area at all really and Dad died when I was still a schoolboy. However, his elder brother, William Sheppard, ran a haulage business from 56 Sherborne Street until after the war, when he moved out of town. About five years ago, on a filthy wet day, I drove up to Birmingham determined to find the old building. Apart from the steam clock all I could see was a vast muddy building site. Braving the rain, I walked through the mud and grabbed one of the building workers to ask if I had the right place. "Too late, mate, we flattened it about three months ago to build more of these yuppy flats!" We all get disappointments in genealogy, but I think that was one of my worst - missed it by a gnat's whisker!

Maurice
 
Can`t think were it is but the Shopkeeper was killed and his killer was the last to be hung at Winson Green Prison. Len.
 
Lencops

You got the second part right all you need now is the location. Here is another photo a little further up the road to help you.

Phil
 

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June 2 1962: Newsagent Thomas Bates was shot during a robbery in Lee Bank Road. Oswald Grey was convicted for murder and became the last person hanged for murder in Birmingham. (Len did all the work! :) )
 
Thomas Bates was at 196 Lee bank road. That was on the north side at the far end near the junction with islington row, wheeley lane
Mikr
 
Totally correct in all aspects, Len solved both parts first, but thanks to printmeister for supplying the details

Just a couple of details to add Grey was 20 years old when he was executed on the 20th of November 1962.

Phil
 
not sure if in right thread but seem to recall policeman being killed think was in hope st highgate/balsall heath any ideas was 60,s i think
 
Carolyn just got your joke. I have only ever got one of these right and that was an educated guess. Will keep trying though. Jean.
 
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