Wellesley Street

[ColinSGreen]

Hey guys I know it's been a few years but I'm trying to find out about a Beatrice Marjorie Ingram who was a shopkeeper at 100 Wellesley Street. Does anyone know anything about her or the shop? I think she is my great grandmother and we think she may have been married twice before getting with my great grandad (and never marrying...!). Any information would be fantastic. Thank you!

 

[mikejee]

The shop first appears between 1892 and 1895, then being run by William Groves. Between 1900 and 1903 it was taken over by Walter Bacon. By 1908 it is described as a grocers run by George White. By 1910, still a grocers, it is run by Robert Phillips, but by 1913 it is no longer described as a grocers, just a shop, run by John Stimson, In 1915 a shop run by Miss Maud Mary Beale, and in 1921 by Charles Edward Ashley. The electoral roll shows May Beatrice Ingram as being at 100 Wellesley St from 1922 up till 1939. However the directories list it in 1924 (robab ly referring to 1923) as being a shop run by Horace Tongue. Possibly he initially ran the shop for her (or the directory was rather out of date). I do not have directories from 1925-1931, but in 1932 it is a shop run by Mrs Beatrice M. Ingram who remains there till the 1943 edition. the shop has gone by the 1944 edition.
The position of the shop is shown in red on the c1950 map below.

 

[AndrewB]

I will be showing my father these images he used to live at 75 Wellesley Street. Thank you for sharing.

 

[keefstrang]

I will be showing my father these images he used to live at 75 Wellesley Street. Thank you for sharing.

Hello there,
Would your surname be Burtenshaw? If it is then my dad's family lived in 77 Wellesley Street - the Taylors.

 

[stevefaulkner]

Hi Both,

My Nan , Mary Faulkner , Nee Betteridge is the daughter of Lena Burtenshaw I have a photo of Lena) and Charles Betteridge. She married Frederick Faulkner.

Although Taylor is not unusual , Flora Taylor married my nans father Henry Faulkner of 77 Manor Farm Rd.

If theres a wedding album of Mary and Frederick i'd probably jump in the car and drive to you - and i'm on the south coast ;-)

 

[Bill...]

My Gt Gt Grandmother Hannah Tucker is in the 1901 census at 146 Wellesley Street. The shop in the photo is at 148 next door, so maybe she moved there later. Maps of 1889 show no housing there so a relatively new build at the time.

Thanks to Astoness for picture 7293 which shows the address 60ish years later.

 

[mikejee]

The 1900 directory lists Catherine Banning as having the newsagent at 148. Hannah Tucker is listed there in the 1903 directory, but by the 1904 edition it is run by Charles Smith, and it is not listed as a business in 1908.

 

[Bill...]

Thanks Mike. This is such a great forum.

 

[Hans Terlouw]

Hi all, I would be grateful for information on people who have lived on 32 Wellesley Street, Birmingham, 19 (Hockney). Until 1944 there were Charles Ernest Roberts and his wife Ruby White living there. Charles fought with the 2nd Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regiment in Europe. He was killed on 14 October 1944 near Overloon, Netherlands. He is buried in Mierlo Commomwealth War Graves. Recently I have had to honor to adopt his grave in order to keep his memory alive and to make sure his sacrifice will not be forgotten. In order to keep Charles Roberts’ memory alive, I am looking for his relatives. Any help is much appreciated.
Kind regards, Hans Terlouw (Netherlands)

 

[Astoness]

hi hans and welcome...looking at the 1939 eve of war register it was just charles and his wife ruby at wellesley st..no children listed at that point although it could be possible ruby could have been pregnant at the time the 1939 register was taken.. also if charles came home on leave from time to time there could have been a child born...i will try and find out if charles did have any children with ruby if he did not then we would then have to try and trace any brothers or sisters he had to see if they had any children as they would be his closest family and could still be alive..there could be other members who will try to help you..i will get back to you after i have done a bit of research but could i ask what documents you may have to confirm that the charles you have is the correct one as charles in wellesley st was born on 23rd december 1915...thanks

lyn

 

[Hans Terlouw]

Hi Lyn (and others), thanks first of all for your kind welcome in this forum. Through his service records and some inquiries through findmyfamily I established that Charles was indeed born on 23 December 15. His gravestone states his age at tal hat time as 30, but technically it should indeed be 29. I have found his correct date of birth and his address (the 32 Wellesley St) in his service records (see attachment).
According to a 1921 census, Charles was born on 23 December 1915 as the youngest of 5 kids from Henry Roberts and Annie Roberts. They lived on
2 /248 Great Russell Street, Birmingham. Ruby was born on 13 Wellesley St as the youngest of 7 children (1921 census).
I noticed in one of the files that his professson was Silversmith Engineer. Does that ring a bell?
Thanks again for your time and help.

 

[Astoness]

hi hans thank you that is what i have found so far...looking at the 21 census his dad worked with silver and gold and his mom in silver and both worked in the jewellery quarter area of birmingham which in those days was a thriving area as it is today really so not unusual for children to follow in their parents footsteps with regards to occupations..as said we now need to find out if charles had any children with ruby if he did not then we need to try and follow up on his siblings...early days yet so watch this space..

lyn