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Victuallers
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HI CAROLINA ;
I can tell you now the small wood s was well known in the trade and they was around for many years
the generations of them in the wines and spirits bussiness around aston;fromthose early years they was respected people as well;
best wishes Astonian;
I can tell you now the small wood s was well known in the trade and they was around for many years
the generations of them in the wines and spirits bussiness around aston;fromthose early years they was respected people as well;
best wishes Astonian;
Does anyone know if there is a way of tracing victuallers? My Grandmother supposed to have ran The Crown Pub Wylde Green Sutton Coldfield after she married in 1898. The pub is long gone. During WW1 The Mitre Oak Pub, Stourport on Severn, and told us that as the army marched off to war they saluted her, as some of the captains had stayed there. At some time she helped her sister run the Bell in Stourbridge. Research has proved her to have had a very eventful life.
Born Emily Gertrude Ingram, married Sidney Nicholls 1898, called herself Gertrude Jasper 1911, between 1906-1911 went to America, later married Joseph Martin and called themselves Morten, then finally her last husband Fred Bull. I don't know if it was her sister Elizabeth or Edith who ran the Bell pub If anyone can help I would be most grateful. Many Thanks, Chris
Born Emily Gertrude Ingram, married Sidney Nicholls 1898, called herself Gertrude Jasper 1911, between 1906-1911 went to America, later married Joseph Martin and called themselves Morten, then finally her last husband Fred Bull. I don't know if it was her sister Elizabeth or Edith who ran the Bell pub If anyone can help I would be most grateful. Many Thanks, Chris
Carolina
There are a number of other Smallwood victuallers in the area also. Below are John Smallwoods, and ones who might be John:
1829-55 Smallwood Joseph and John. wine and spirit merchants,24, 25 & 26 Lower Priory
1829-50 Smallwood John, coach harness brass founder, French plater, & victualler,The White Lion, 46 Navigation-st.
1839 Smallwood John, maltster, Holt street
1839 Smallwood John, victualler, 144, Moseley street
1858 No John Smallwood who is a victualler
There are a number of other Smallwood victuallers in the area also. Below are John Smallwoods, and ones who might be John:
1829-55 Smallwood Joseph and John. wine and spirit merchants,24, 25 & 26 Lower Priory
1829-50 Smallwood John, coach harness brass founder, French plater, & victualler,The White Lion, 46 Navigation-st.
1839 Smallwood John, maltster, Holt street
1839 Smallwood John, victualler, 144, Moseley street
1858 No John Smallwood who is a victualler
Mike I have found some info on Thomas Taylor/John Smallwood showing Indentures and leases
Lease for a year Thomas Taylor of Yardley, Maltster and John Smallbrook of Yardley, Maltster and Victualler of the moiety of messuages and apputenances at Upper Gorsty Green Gosta Green and Aston Street Birmingham dated 25 May 1808
Indenture between Thomas Taylor. Edward Hoxford, Samuel Steen of Bordesley, James Phillips being a covenant for the production of title deeds of messuages, land and appurtenancies in Steelhouse Lane, otherwise Whitehalls Lane, Whitehall Street otherwise Catherine Street, Whittall Street and Upper Gosty Green Gosta Green, Birmingham dated 7 June 1810
My relative is Thomas Taylor from Yardley.
Lease for a year Thomas Taylor of Yardley, Maltster and John Smallbrook of Yardley, Maltster and Victualler of the moiety of messuages and apputenances at Upper Gorsty Green Gosta Green and Aston Street Birmingham dated 25 May 1808
Indenture between Thomas Taylor. Edward Hoxford, Samuel Steen of Bordesley, James Phillips being a covenant for the production of title deeds of messuages, land and appurtenancies in Steelhouse Lane, otherwise Whitehalls Lane, Whitehall Street otherwise Catherine Street, Whittall Street and Upper Gosty Green Gosta Green, Birmingham dated 7 June 1810
My relative is Thomas Taylor from Yardley.
Carolina
Following the last post there are a couple of extra things:
1849 the home of John Smallwood’, wine & spirit merchant is listed as at Castle Bromwich
John smallbrook, farmer & Maltster, Yardley is listed in the directories for 1841,1845, 1849,1855. He is listed just as a maltster in 1867-1873
Following the last post there are a couple of extra things:
1849 the home of John Smallwood’, wine & spirit merchant is listed as at Castle Bromwich
John smallbrook, farmer & Maltster, Yardley is listed in the directories for 1841,1845, 1849,1855. He is listed just as a maltster in 1867-1873
The following site https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/corporate/victuall.nsf/fWebParish/$searchForm?SearchView
is the Warwickshire Victuallers 1800 - 1828, it covers Birmingham and the County of Warwickshire.
Clarkie
is the Warwickshire Victuallers 1800 - 1828, it covers Birmingham and the County of Warwickshire.
Clarkie
The system changed in 1828, you might find the information on this site useful.
https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/Publican-Brewery-and-Licensed-Victuallers-Records-Occupations/127/
Clarkie
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Thanks Clarkie for giving us these sites, I have a number of ancestors in the pub trade, I will look at them when I have more time.
Hi Carol, no photographs but I found a few references:
You might like to check this earlier post, includes a map from Mikejee
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=36299&highlight=anchor%2C+sheep+st
Plus a couple of bits on the web.
1868, Sheep St, Aston St, 13 Anchor, George Jones
The Bankruptcy Act, 1869. From the London Gazette
In the County Court of Warwickshire, holden at - Birmingham.
ln the Matter of Proceedings for Liquidation by Arrangement or Composition with Creditors, instituted by
Arthur Bellamy, of No. 211, Aston-road, Birmingham, in the county of Warwick, Wireworker, trading under
the style of T. Bellamy, and living in lodgings at No. 136, Phillip-street, Aston, near Birmingham aforesaid, and lately residing: and carrying on the business of a Licensed Victualler at the Anchor Inn, Sheep-street, Birmingham.
In the 1890 directory.
Steele William, Anchor Inn, 13 Sheep St.
1891 census Joseph Bennett and wife Dinah living at 13 sheep st (the anchor inn) Birmingham employed as licensed victualler.
Clarkie
You might like to check this earlier post, includes a map from Mikejee
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=36299&highlight=anchor%2C+sheep+st
Plus a couple of bits on the web.
1868, Sheep St, Aston St, 13 Anchor, George Jones
The Bankruptcy Act, 1869. From the London Gazette
In the County Court of Warwickshire, holden at - Birmingham.
ln the Matter of Proceedings for Liquidation by Arrangement or Composition with Creditors, instituted by
Arthur Bellamy, of No. 211, Aston-road, Birmingham, in the county of Warwick, Wireworker, trading under
the style of T. Bellamy, and living in lodgings at No. 136, Phillip-street, Aston, near Birmingham aforesaid, and lately residing: and carrying on the business of a Licensed Victualler at the Anchor Inn, Sheep-street, Birmingham.
In the 1890 directory.
Steele William, Anchor Inn, 13 Sheep St.
1891 census Joseph Bennett and wife Dinah living at 13 sheep st (the anchor inn) Birmingham employed as licensed victualler.
Clarkie
Clarkie I also have details showing again Thomas Taylor and insolvency which was dealt after his death by his son Abel. Most of it was land (The Hagglebottom, Lyndon Meadow, Lyndon Field and Fordrough); barn, stables, malthouse, kiln, 6 cottages and even a superior mine of clay, but this was in the Bickenhill and Yardley area (king v Nossiter and King v Taylor). This is what started me off trying to find other things about Thomas as it seemed more than a coincidence that they are one and the same person Thomas Taylor, Yardley - Maltster. Where did all the money come from and more importantly where did it go - didnt come down the line to me!!..:ambivalence:
