VICTORIA INN 87 CARDIGAN STREET

[Astoness]

could i have a look up please for the name of the pub that was at 87 cardigan st around 1911....i think it was just off curzon st..

many thanks...

 

[horsencart]

The 1912 directory does not list that address as a pub but it listed as
84 Yates Geo Thos Beer retlr
87 Doyle George Hy Beer ret

the pub may have had a name that ws known localy I will see if it had a name

 

[Astoness]

thanks horsencart and chris...

henry doyle is the name i am looking for...he was there on the 1911 census but it seems then that 87 was not a pub extactly....

thanks again...

lyn

 

[smtr]

Hi there
on the 1901 87 Cardigan Street is the Victoria Inn and George Wilson is the Publican.

Suzanne

 

[mikejee]

Lyn
The pub was The Victoria. It was the last building on the north end of the east side, so seems to have been the blue building .
mike

 

[Astoness]

thanks suzanne and thanks mike and dec....i should like to find a pic of this pub as its where my dads mom kate downes lived aged 3 with the doyles who looked after her as one of their own when both of kates parents died...i will find out for certain tomorrow but its looking like both parents died on the same day or only one day apart when kate was barely 4 months old...how sad...

lyn

 

[Astoness]

hi folks would anyone have a photo of this pub please i beleive it to be the victoria inn...do not know when it disappeared but it was there in 1911 when a rellie ran it...thanks for any help

lyn

 

[Phil]

Lyn

If we are talking about Cardigan Street off Curzon Street, then the place you are looking for must have been a beer retailer because the only listed public house at that time in Cardigan Street was the Grand Junction Railway Inn.

 

[Pedrocut]

John Dugmore, Victoria Inn, Cardigan St. Sept 1881
1915 CJ Sanders
1849 Chas. Cooper

[later info from Kelly 1913 puts Chas Sanders Jn at 87 Cardington Street and Beer retailer. As it is the last entry it may be on the corner with Curzon Street]

 

[Astoness]

thanks pedro so there was a victoria inn in cardigan st ive just been going over some old family ancestry notes ... phil its the only cardigan st i know of ...anyhow here is the 1911 census showing george doyle as licensed victualler also with servant which i took to most likely be a barmaid..

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[Phil]

Lyn

It's the only Cardigan Street that I know as well Lyn, but a hundred years ago who knows? In the 1912 Edition of Kelly's G Doyle is listed as a Beer Retailer at 87 Cardigan Street.

 

[mikejee]

the numbering in Cardigan st was continuous, so no 87 is on the corner with Belmont Row.

 

[Pedrocut]

November 1883...

 

[Astoness]

thanks for the map mike the building was certainly a large one...the reason phil could not find the victoria inn is because its address may have been belmont row...

thanks also for the snippet pedro...a very nasty incident

lyn

 

[mikejee]

It was certainly in Cardigan St at some time in Kellys, as Pedrocut has mentioned. Also Mr Doyle is mentioned there in 1911 and it was in Cardigan st in 1871. The 1871 mention confirms it was (then) a beerhouse



No doubt adverts were cut as short as possible for cost reasons, but like the image of a girl, strong as a general

 

[Astoness]

thanks for the snippets mike the strong girl bit made me laff...if you look at the 1911 i posted on post 5 henry doyle does have a servant girl there so maybe she was the strong one the little girl on the census kate alice doyle is in fact kate alice harrington my grandmother who was taken in and raised by the doyles at 8 months old after her parents both died very young one day apart obviously they thought it easier just to put her down as their daughter..

lyn