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Treacle

wallyb71

master brummie
I remember having a Treacle sandwich. The can was green with a lions head on the front and you had to pop the lid off and dip a knife in and spread it on a slice of bread and Marge. It was so sweet, and what was it made of. ???

Have a nice day, Wally. :) :) :) :)
 
The tins are exactly the same today Wally. I couldn't eat one now, but yes I loved a treacle sarni. :) If I use it now I do always lick the spoon.

I guess treacle is made from sugar cane.  ??
 
I think the tins said Golden Syrup, which is the same thing
couldn't stand it personally, too sweet and sickly but we always had a tin in the house when the kids were babies - we used to dip the dummies in it. Yuk!!
 
Jerry it is called Golden Syrup - tate and lyle used to make it I think.
If we were having a day where my mum was running low on granulated sugar - she'd put a spoonful of golden syrup on our porridge for breakfast!! Really nice too :smitten:

My mum used to put some golden syrup at the bottom of suet puddings and we would have it for pudding with custard (Birds of course!!) It made a change from Jam puddings!!!

Talking of custard - whatever have they done to custard that it isn't as yellow anymore?? I have periodically gone out and bought different brands of custards and none of them are yellow anymore - just pale creamy coloured - just doesn't look the same yellow at all to me!! :'(
 
I have a small tin of Lyles BlackTreacle in our Pantry and its Red instead of Green

The Motto under the Lion says Out of the Strong came forth Sweetness

Best before date May 1998 ::)

I also loved Treacle sanies wouldn't dare touch it now Diabetic

As a matter of interest is there anymore Diabetics on the Forum
 
I still make a treacle sponge pud. I put a large dollop of treacle in the bottom of the dish, it's buuutiful.

The tin in my kitchen cupboard says Lyles Golden Syrup. O0

Alfie the Black Tracle makes lovely gingerbread..
 
Yes Di I got it for cooking something but can't remember now. But Mom & Gran used it for Toffee and Toffee Apples :)

For Elizabeth on the front of mine it says Abram Lyle & Sons but on the back Tate & Lyle. :)
 
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Mom used to get through lots of this, she made Toffee Apples for half the kids in Aston, she sold lots of them. Dad made sticks for the apples from cutting up Orange Boxes from Griffins, or Sketchleys. mom sold the Toffee Apples for 3d or 6d depending on size.
 
:angel: The holiday camp that I worked at in Nytimber Bognor Regis was part of the Tate & Lyle Empire.
I remember one late night when I was in a room behind 'The Bar' washing glasses, a lady happened to pop her head around the door and said "My god! What's a little thing like you doing washing all those glasses on your own?".‚..I.‚.. just said it was part of my job so I had to, she went off but about 15 minutes later came back with a young girl and they started to help by drying the washed glasses. They were really nice and we started to have a laugh and muck about, by this time Colin (My future Hubby) had also come to help as he always did, if I hadn't finished and it was getting close to closing time. Anyway, we must have been making a bit of a din, because the manager of the camp came storming in asking what all the noise was about. Well you should have seen his face go red when he saw who was drying the glasses and laughing their heads off. It was only then that Col and I found out that the two 'Ladies' (and that was what they were) were! The elder was one of Sir Henry Tate's G/Granddaughter's and the other one was her daughter Virginia (Ginny) who was two years and a couple of days older than me.
I never had to wash glasses late at night again after that, I was put on afternoon teas instead. O0
 
Alf & Rod - that's the stuff!! I remember how sticky the tin used to get urgh!!!
I was in the supermarket this morning and was looking for this stuff - do you know it now comes in squeezy type plastic bottles now with flip type caps!!! But I reckon it won't have the same taste?? I remember it was a bit of a struggle getting into a part used tin of syrup - a bit like a used gloss paint tin?? lid was stuff to get into?

My mum used to be very good in inventing sweets for us as kids when we'd got so little money - she'd make coconut ice from desicated coconut and fussels condensed milk food colouring to make the pink (blues and yellows!!) and peppermint creams from "pantry ingredients" - It used to be a real mum and kiddies rainy day "non cooking thing" where we'd all be in the kitchen in Dolman Street making lines of sweets :smitten:

Dolman Street was back to back houses over the road and my mum was lucky as we'd got a house on the other side backing onto the railway lines at the sorting office there we had a small private garden of our own - till the railway wall fell down!! - and as there were so many poorly kiddies in those days and the drains used to flood etc.. over the road - my mum was so strict in that my friends had to come play with me and I wasn't allowed to go over the road etc.. (one of my cousins had died of polio late 1960's - so mum was stricter as she never wanted me ill too!!) Kind of makes me realise now how much my mum loved me?? As a kid I thought it awful as all the other kids were allowed out to play on the big yards - I had to stay home!! I guess as we grow up we realise everything our parents did was for a reason?? :smitten:
 
Do you suppose it could be made from Honey. Maybe they have the ingredients on the tin now, like they do on most things these days.

Have a nice day, Wally.
 
My mom used to put golden syrup in the rice pudding to sweeten it when sugar was rationed, it was lovely. We went to Bidford on Avon today and had a drink in the garden of a riverside pub and there was an empty treacle tin on one of the tables as a lure to catch the numerous wasps.
 
:angel:
The Motto under the Lion says Out of the Strong came forth Sweetness

The story behind the motto:

The lion and the bee

The Lyle's Golden Syrup trademark depicts a quotation from the Bible. In Book of Judges, Chapter 14, Samson was travelling to the land of the Philistines in search of a wife. During the journey he killed a lion, and on his return past the same spot he noticed that a swarm of bees had formed a comb of honey in the carcass. Samson later turned this into a riddle at a wedding: "Out of the eater came forth meat and out of the strong came forth sweetness". While no one is sure why this quotation was chosen, we do know that such a quotation would have greatly appealed to the deeply religious Abram Lyle.
 
Great story about the holiday camp Chris. You just never know do you? Also, the story behind the Tate and Lyle logo. We used to have Treacle Pudding at school I remember and at home it was used on Porridge and in Rice Puddings among many other things.Once in a while Mom would make toffee apples. You very rarely see them these days. That's a shame because they were wonderful.
 
:angel: Yes Jennyann, it was a real surprise to find out who they were.
When they walked in all that was said is "This is Mom and I'm Ginny would you like some help?" I said "It's OK I do it three nights a week, my boyfriend will be here soon he'll help". Anyway they just grabbed a couple of tea towels and started drying.
Tell you one thing though, there were more glasses broken that night then any other night I did the job (I was getting quite worried). When we were laughing about her Mom breaking another glass, Ginny said "Well that's another glass that won't get dried ever again, just tell the gaffer it was a bad batch".
So I've never been really sure if it was all the broken glasses, or the word in the right ear that got me moved to a better job. O0 :2funny: :2funny:
 
You've touched a memory or two's nerves there folks! Treacle the most versatile of all treats. It was used for many many treats, but my favourite was apple wrapped in a ball of suet pastry, wrapped in a cloth and steamed. When it finished up on your plate as a steaming round ball of suet pastry all that was required to make it the perfect dish was spoonfuls of Tate and Lyle's Golden Syrup. That's another thing I yearn for but don't get! My only indulgence is that other treat from childhood tinned condensed milk! Another great treat but not as versatile as treacle.
This forum is doing me no good at all, I'm putting on the pounds just by your talk of treats of the past.
 
I don't remember butter tarts in England does anyone else. Have corn syrup which is like thin treacle and the nut and raisins ready to make some but waiting for the weather to cool off. I did make cookies yesterday when it was a bit cooler but forgot the tarts, they are a bit too sweet for me.
Maybe they were called treacle tarts in England.

Do we have a recipe thread? :D
 
Sakura, treacle tarts were very popular in Birmingham when I was growing up and I didn't mind them if I only had a small piece. We had them at School Dinners often and Mom would get out the Tate & Lyle's and make a tart on a Saturday sometimes.

I wouldn't say that butter tarts, as we know them in Canada, are unknown in Britain but they are not a popular item like they are in Canada. When I first came to Canada in 1963 and lived in Peterborough, Ont. pop. 50,000, I was amazed at the variety of biscuits, squares, cakes and tarts available both in the shops and made by people at home, especially at Christmas. They certainly experienced rationing of food stuffs during the WW2 in Canada but nothing on the scale of Britain, so I am assuming that they were more or less always able to make such goodies. My husband, although born in London, England and was raised in Vancouver loves all those goodies especially butter tarts.
 
As you say Jenn they are very popular and we picked some up from a roadside market on our way to visit someone last week.

Incidentally for the Brits, the roadside markets are controlled fairly well by the health dept, if fact more so now than in the past. O0
 
Yes, Sakura....It's those bureaucrats' rules from Brussels at work....another subject I fear.
 
Sorry Jen I think I confused you, when I said for the Brits I meant for their information and I was talking about the health dept here in Canada. Our local store has been stopped from selling loose buns, although Bun King still do and some of the Super Markets.

The country roadside market by us has all the food protected behind glass so I suppose they comply with the health rules. Which is good. O0

I am sure you have lots of fruit markets in BC a place we still have to visit.
 
Forgive me Sakura...momentarily in the wrong country. I think it's a case of PC here.
It's amazing how we all stayed alive before all this nonsense came along. They were thinking of banning Fun Fair homemake cakes, cookies, buns, etc. for sale at schools and churches that's only the start of it. I am not sure about the multicultural festivals where street food is out there. Funny thing is that if you get on websites with restaurant reviews you can often read about people suffering food poisoning in some establishments and even close downs by the local government officials due to all kinds of awful reasons.

Not sure that everyone is on the same page in this regard.
 
ALF. Yes l am Diabetic, six tablets a day for various things. If you saw me l would not blame you if you called me a fool., all 15 1/2 stone of me.
 
What you mean Ernie? I'm on 4 Diabetic tablet and 2 Blood Pressure  I'm no fool so smile ;D

I believe my Dad was a Diabetic but would not go to the Doctors :(
 
I seem to remember 'Tate & Lyle' being regularly mentioned in 'ThePerishers" (are they still alive? Marlon, Boot et al).
 
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