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The Oak Selly Oak, The old white lion lancaster street

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ellietimoney

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My grandparents Gladys and Fred/Horace Stokes ran the oak during WW2. My dad was in the navy at the time, but around on leave. I have loads of photos of the back of the pub and the inside but none of the front at all. Can anyone help? They previously ran the Mitre inn Ledsam street and the Eagle and Ball Penn street.

My great grandfather was also a publican running for a few years around 1911 the Rose Tavern henley street then later the Old White Lion lancaster street and the Beehive Geach street Duddestone. I can find no mention anywhere other than the censuses of these latter pubs and would love to know any history. His name was Joseph Haddon, married to Ellen.
 
In the 1912 directory there is a
Haddon Joseph beer retailer 47 Henley St Camp Hill

In the 1916 directory there is a
Haddon Joseph Old White Lion P H 95 Lancaster St

In the 1929 directory there is a
Haddon Jsph beer rtlr 298 Yardley Wood Rd Moseley

Still there in 1935 I have not checked every year more at random but he was at Old White Lion and Yardley Wood for a number of years and I have only looked up till 1935



ellietimoney said:
My grandparents Gladys and Fred/Horace Stokes ran the oak during WW2. My dad was in the navy at the time, but around on leave. I have loads of photos of the back of the pub and the inside but none of the front at all. Can anyone help? They previously ran the Mitre inn Ledsam street and the Eagle and Ball Penn street.

My great grandfather was also a publican running for a few years around 1911 the Rose Tavern henley street then later the Old White Lion lancaster street and the Beehive Geach street Duddestone. I can find no mention anywhere other than the censuses of these latter pubs and would love to know any history. His name was Joseph Haddon, married to Ellen.
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The Beehive was 56 Geach St. I do not have a record of when Joseph Haddon was landlord, but those that I do have from directories are given below. As you can see, he must have been there soon after it became a pub just before 1908.

1904 Alfred Hinks , grocer
1905 Mrs Leticia Hinks, grocer
1908 John Palmer , beer retailer
1910-35 Thomas Andrews, beer retailer
1936-44 Joseph Morris, beer retailer
1946-50 Frederick William Inshaw, beer retailer
1955-56 Mrs Irene Frances Roberts
1962-65 R.W.Perrott
1967 Pub gone
 
Thank you for that information. With reference to the Beehive that is really interesting. Joseph Haddon lived there in 1939 and I assumed he was the proprietor, however Joseph Morris is his recently widowed son-in-law so it looks as if he's moved in to help out after her death. She died in 1938.

298 yardley wood road was in 1935 an off licence according to the directories but it is now The Covered Wagon pub. I wonder if it is the same premises?

i have searched high and low for old photographs of the White Lion. My paternal great grandfather had a gun barrel polishing business at the rear of the pub: i'm assuming this is how my grandparents met!
 
mike could you post me a map please showing where the old white lion pub was at 95 lancaster st..reason i ask is because i have a pic here of the white lion pub and in the 1944 kellys it is listed at 84 newtown row at the corner with brearley st and as newtown row is a continuation of lancaster st i wondered if they are one and the same pub....

thanks mike

lyn
 
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Lyn
Joseph & Edith Haddon are listed on the electoral roll for the White Lion 95 Lancaster St for 1920-1925. They had gone by 1927. The c1889 OS map lists it as the Old white Lion. The position of the two pubs are shown on the map below, 95 lancaster st in red, 84 New town row in blue

map_c_1913_showing_white_lion_New_town_row_and_Old_white_lion_lancaster_st.jpg
 
ahh thanks mike it was only a long shot that they may have been one and the same...will keep my eyes open for a pic of the old white lion then...

thank you mike..

lyn
 
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Thank you. Those are great photos. I had a copy of the first earlier one which is definitely the oak (my nana had it hanging in the pub!!) but not the second which is, i suspect around the time they would have been there.
Ellie Timoney
 
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