The Collage and The Duke of Marlbrough Public House's

[JKC]

I am after photographs of the following Public Houses's.......

The Collage......which was at 169 Spring Hil
Duke of Marlborough which was at 186-188 Newhall Street

James (Jimmy) Warner the ex-Aston Villa was the publican of both of the above between 1884/1891......The windows of The Collage were broken by Villa fans after the Villa lost to Westbrom in the FA Cup final......the fans blamed  Jimmy for throwing the game.....

 

[Peter Walker]

JK, no photos I'm afraid but some background.
The earliest date I have found for the College Arms at 167 Spring Hill (SE corner of College St, formerly 67) was 1868, when William Henry Cooke was licensee. The directories of the time record the following licensees:
George Bedford 1868, 1878 and 1883
William Smith 1873
William Henry Cook 1890
Joseph Thomas in 1895, and 1900.
No trace of James Warner that I've seen.
The Duke of Marlborough, at 186-188 address, (formerly 29-30 Mount St) had the following licensees:
Richard Wild 1883,
James Warner in 1890,
Baron John Davenport [was there a brewery connection?] in 1895.
So Far as the Football connection is concerned, I think you are referring to the the FA Cup match of 1888, when the Baggies beat Villa. They have won the FA cup four times since then.

 

[Pomgolian]

:angel: I'm not sure what Pub it was Peter,  but JK is right about the riot. 
Here's an account of the incident from my Villa book: The Aston Villa Story.

 

[JKC]

Thank you Peter and Chris for replying,
Jimmy Warner was the publican at the Collage Arms at that time, the name of the pub is stated in another book about the Villa, also his parents were living just a few yards away in Blew Street (North) I think at that time......Blew Street was later replaced by Roseberry Street.
JK

 

[Mossy]

The College Pub

John, the above pub on Dudley Rd,Springhill in the 50s was known for boxing,because it had a boxing ring upstairs,
The licensee at that time was Billy Millington who every one thought was a boxer himself but never put a pair of gloves on in his life.but must admit he looked like a promoter a nice bloke,met up with him later in life when he had The Primrose in Kings Norton in the 70s/80s

Mossy

 

[JKC]

Ta Mossy....I will forward that info on to Cheryl Earl when I write next time to her...her grandfather was Jimmy Warner.....

 

[A.Willoughby]

Bill Millington had Johnny Prescott training, at one time, in his ring above his pub. The pub was known locally, in the late 50's, when Bill had it - not by it's name but as "Spinghill Bills".
His missus did the best jellied eels I have ever tasted and as I was led to believe Bill used to catch them.
Used to drink regular with him there and recall one time suffering from an enormous boil on my shoulder whereby I was forever lifting my jacket to take the weight off it. Remedy: Bill had me in his kitchen and had his missus weilding a Midlands Counties milk bottle that had been heated up and placed over the boil. A whole lot quicker than the poultice but it brought tears to my eyes. He gave me a scotch to take the pain away.
Saw him a few times at the Primrose but then I moved on and lost contact with him. A true gent and his wife an angel even with a heated bottle.
Will.

 

[Mossy]

Collage pub

Thanks Willoughby that was a smashing story.i was to young to use that pub at the time Bill had it you are right they were lovely people,and his daughter,we had a good times at the Primrose after time of cause

The College pub as my father told me was on what they called part of the monkey run starting at springhill and as far as i think The Cape was it called The Cape Of Good Hope?

Happy Days
Mossy