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Quite possibly the Norlands at 78 Sutton Road, was the largest of all the houses built on that part of Sutton Road !
I wonder who the first occupants where before it was let and later
used a Red Cross Auxiliary Hospital in WW1 as described in a very interesting post from Vivienne14 recently.
I only have records from 1939 and 1953 ,it was then ran as the Lyndhurst Guest House until the property was demolished a few years later.Any missing links would be appreciated.
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pjmburns
master brummie
Normanhurst is listed as a nursing home on Sutton Road in the 1950 phone book. No house number is given. I am just wondering if the building opened in 1958 (post #84) was replacing an existing home and that is why it was given the same name.
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pjmburns
master brummie
A house called Norlands appears on the 1889 map.
That early I don't think Erdington is part of Birmingham which makes tracking harder.
In my findings for 1953 Normanhurst was number 96 on Sutton Road and was then home to 20 women ,(nurses? / nursing home ?) the dates that they demolished number 96 and opened a 'new' Normanhurst in 1958 match.
I certainly agree the name 'Normanhurst' has been a popular name used and re-used for care homes in Erdington.
I certainly agree the name 'Normanhurst' has been a popular name used and re-used for care homes in Erdington.
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I did a bit of searching on Norlands House this afternoon. This is what I’ve found so far. I shall expand this list when I have more to add.
NOTES ABOUT “NORLANDS” HOUSE AND RESIDENTS
22/6/1870 Edmund Boughton of Norlands appointed magistrate for the County of Warwickshire (Worcestershire Chronicle)
31/1/1874 Augustus Frederick Godson offered himself as the candidate for the borough of Warwick (Warwickshire Advertiser) Gives address as Norlands but says he’s not a resident of the Borough.
6/5/1876 Edmund Boughton J.P of Norlands Erdington, eldest daughter Annie Robinson married at Erdington Parish Church. (Royal Leamington Spa Courier)
12/12/1878 notice about Norlands household effects for auction (Birmingham Daily Post)
9/8/1907 businesses failed of George Tucker, Norlands Erdington, trading as George Tucker & Co, John Wood & Co and W. Eldridge & Co, sealing wax and pen manufactures (Birmingham Gazette)
1/1/1909 A.T.Emery of Norlands selling a stud greyhound (The Sportsman)
25/3/1914 a sale of oil and watercolour paintings of the late Mrs S M Emery deceased from Norlands House included works by Paul Braddon, Arthur Wardle, C Hunt, Noble, Bannatyne and many more (Birmingham Gazette)
7/10/1914 the late Mr Alfred Thomas Emery, metal merchant, left an estate gross value £10,869 ( Birmingham Gazette)
27/12/1915 referred to as The Norlands Hospital with 38 patients (Birmingham Daily Mail)
15/11/1919 Norlands, Sutton Road advertised for sale (with vacant possession) as a desirable residence with pleasure and kitchen gardens, paddock and turfs in 8 acres (Birmingham Gazette)
20/1/1920 a second class Cross of the British Red Cross was awarded to Nurse E A Potter of Norlands Hospital Erdington (Birmingham Daily Gazette)
10/2/1923 Mrs Cooke at Norlands gave birth to a daughter here (Mr & Mrs W H Cooke of Drayton House) (Tamworth Herald)
7/4/1923 a son born at Norlands Nursing Home, Erdington to Mr and Mrs A J Richards of Arbury, Richmond Road, Sutton Coldfield
26/2/1927 advertising as the Norland Maternity and Nursing Home (Warwickshire Advertiser)
To add a bit of detail and insight into the house here are a few clippings: two from 1878 when all the effects were being auctioned and one from 1927 when it was a Maternity Home.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Viv.
NOTES ABOUT “NORLANDS” HOUSE AND RESIDENTS
22/6/1870 Edmund Boughton of Norlands appointed magistrate for the County of Warwickshire (Worcestershire Chronicle)
31/1/1874 Augustus Frederick Godson offered himself as the candidate for the borough of Warwick (Warwickshire Advertiser) Gives address as Norlands but says he’s not a resident of the Borough.
6/5/1876 Edmund Boughton J.P of Norlands Erdington, eldest daughter Annie Robinson married at Erdington Parish Church. (Royal Leamington Spa Courier)
12/12/1878 notice about Norlands household effects for auction (Birmingham Daily Post)
9/8/1907 businesses failed of George Tucker, Norlands Erdington, trading as George Tucker & Co, John Wood & Co and W. Eldridge & Co, sealing wax and pen manufactures (Birmingham Gazette)
1/1/1909 A.T.Emery of Norlands selling a stud greyhound (The Sportsman)
25/3/1914 a sale of oil and watercolour paintings of the late Mrs S M Emery deceased from Norlands House included works by Paul Braddon, Arthur Wardle, C Hunt, Noble, Bannatyne and many more (Birmingham Gazette)
7/10/1914 the late Mr Alfred Thomas Emery, metal merchant, left an estate gross value £10,869 ( Birmingham Gazette)
27/12/1915 referred to as The Norlands Hospital with 38 patients (Birmingham Daily Mail)
15/11/1919 Norlands, Sutton Road advertised for sale (with vacant possession) as a desirable residence with pleasure and kitchen gardens, paddock and turfs in 8 acres (Birmingham Gazette)
20/1/1920 a second class Cross of the British Red Cross was awarded to Nurse E A Potter of Norlands Hospital Erdington (Birmingham Daily Gazette)
10/2/1923 Mrs Cooke at Norlands gave birth to a daughter here (Mr & Mrs W H Cooke of Drayton House) (Tamworth Herald)
7/4/1923 a son born at Norlands Nursing Home, Erdington to Mr and Mrs A J Richards of Arbury, Richmond Road, Sutton Coldfield
26/2/1927 advertising as the Norland Maternity and Nursing Home (Warwickshire Advertiser)
To add a bit of detail and insight into the house here are a few clippings: two from 1878 when all the effects were being auctioned and one from 1927 when it was a Maternity Home.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Viv.
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Lady Penelope
master brummie
I was browsing the 1881 census and noticed that Eleanor Stanley was living at Stanley House which seems to be next door but one to Wilmot House. The property in the middle is home to a gardener and his family so may have been part of one of the properties. I wondered if there was a connection to the Walter Stanley Trust?
The second thing I noticed was that Wilmot House was being used as a boys school. There appear to be a high ratio of masters to boys but this may have been because some of the boys were day pupils and wouldn't have been staying overnight.
The second thing I noticed was that Wilmot House was being used as a boys school. There appear to be a high ratio of masters to boys but this may have been because some of the boys were day pupils and wouldn't have been staying overnight.
What a well documented thread .
It gives a clear idea of the history of The Norlands and it's residents.
That was quite an impressive auction in 1878. Everything from the family silver to ducks and pigs and also a revolver!
And in 1914 the late Alfred Thomas Emery left an estate gross value of more than 1 million in pounds in todays money,
also very impressive
It gives a clear idea of the history of The Norlands and it's residents.
That was quite an impressive auction in 1878. Everything from the family silver to ducks and pigs and also a revolver!
And in 1914 the late Alfred Thomas Emery left an estate gross value of more than 1 million in pounds in todays money,
also very impressive
This continues the history of Norlands house and it’s residents in post #94. Some time after the 1920s (exact date yet unknown) Norlands was referred to as either 78 Sutton Road or Lyndhurst
NOTES ABOUT LYNDHURST, 78 SUTTON ROAD (formerly known as “NORLANDS”)
23/10/1937 advertisement for Board-Residence or Bedsitting room for one or two and garage Lyndhurst 78 Sutton Road
13/6/1940 notice of John Alfred Brasford killed in action - notice placed by Mother, Dad and Evelyn, 78 Sutton Road Erdington (Birmingham Mail)
19/8/1944 Notice of Dennis Keating killed in action - notice placed by Dad, Mother and Tom, 78 Sutton Road Erdington (Birmingham Mail)
21/1/1949 advert for sale of Alsatian Puppies to apply to Lyndhurst 78 Sutton Road (Lichfield Mercury)
24/6/1949 advert of vacancy for woman to do cooking and be general help at boarding house, - other maids kept, live in - at 78 Sutton Road Erdington( (The Mercury)
This post will be added to as further information is uncovered. Viv.
NOTES ABOUT LYNDHURST, 78 SUTTON ROAD (formerly known as “NORLANDS”)
23/10/1937 advertisement for Board-Residence or Bedsitting room for one or two and garage Lyndhurst 78 Sutton Road
13/6/1940 notice of John Alfred Brasford killed in action - notice placed by Mother, Dad and Evelyn, 78 Sutton Road Erdington (Birmingham Mail)
19/8/1944 Notice of Dennis Keating killed in action - notice placed by Dad, Mother and Tom, 78 Sutton Road Erdington (Birmingham Mail)
21/1/1949 advert for sale of Alsatian Puppies to apply to Lyndhurst 78 Sutton Road (Lichfield Mercury)
24/6/1949 advert of vacancy for woman to do cooking and be general help at boarding house, - other maids kept, live in - at 78 Sutton Road Erdington( (The Mercury)
This post will be added to as further information is uncovered. Viv.
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pjmburns
master brummie
Not sure if this helps or not but 1932 Kelly's has this entry on Sutton Road
By 1936 entry is
I don't have access to any 1920s directories but Viv's post seems to document that time pretty well.
Miss Wint is listed at Lyndhurst School in 1930 phone book but not the 1929. I couldn't find Norlands in the phone book
By 1936 entry is
I don't have access to any 1920s directories but Viv's post seems to document that time pretty well.
Miss Wint is listed at Lyndhurst School in 1930 phone book but not the 1929. I couldn't find Norlands in the phone book
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Another great find, Thank You,
In the 1939 directory Mr/Mrs Dorcinec ( nee Barrasford) were listed as the proprietors and stayed on until the demolition,
This along with Viv's post gives quite a clear idea of Who' who in The Norlands.
Brookfields Lad
master brummie
WOW! That's some info there. Thanks.
I think George Tucker listed at Norlands in 1907 (post #95) might have been the George Tucker of Tucker Eyelets too. I also think he might have been a representative on the Sutton Ward TownTown Council.
Could someone do a Census check please ? Probably George L Tucker, living at Norlands in the 1880s until 1907. Thanks.
Viv.
Could someone do a Census check please ? Probably George L Tucker, living at Norlands in the 1880s until 1907. Thanks.
Viv.
pjmburns
master brummie
1903 & 4 directories have him at The Norlands.
1900 directory has Samuel Downing at The Norlands. Just found him there in 1890 directory as well.
Checking 1901 census now.
I see why I couldn't find it - The Norlands is empty. Name is written with a blank line
Without more info about George Tucker (like wife or dob etc) it is hard to identify which is the right one to find where he was.
1900 directory has Samuel Downing at The Norlands. Just found him there in 1890 directory as well.
Checking 1901 census now.
I see why I couldn't find it - The Norlands is empty. Name is written with a blank line
Without more info about George Tucker (like wife or dob etc) it is hard to identify which is the right one to find where he was.
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Perhaps the Tucker business failure reported in 1907 quoted his old address or maybe he rented the property out.
Looked again at the business failure details of 1907 and Tuckers representative claims he was connected with Tucker Eyelets in name only.
Viv.
Looked again at the business failure details of 1907 and Tuckers representative claims he was connected with Tucker Eyelets in name only.
Viv.
I’d picked up on another Tucker living in Sutton Road - Sutton Ward - in the 1880s but I think it must have been a different Tucker and probably a different area. In any case your info now shows it wasn’t Tucker of Norlands, Erdington around that date. Thanks Janice. Viv.
Hi, yes these are of number 98 Sutton Rd, Beechmount Hotel, you possibly seen me as Wendolene on early threads..Am not sure if these are some that were lost, but they seem to fit the bill (I hope)
Hi Wendolene here from earlier threads in 2008, you may recall l am the Grandaughter of the Edwards. At Beechmount Hotel number 98.
Sadly my Mum Marjorie passed away in 2016, have been going through lots of photos, mainly family ones with Beechmount in and have actually found the Visitor book for the hotel.
Sadly my Mum Marjorie passed away in 2016, have been going through lots of photos, mainly family ones with Beechmount in and have actually found the Visitor book for the hotel.
Hi Mutley. Are you saying you have two BHF memberships ? If so, we shall need to cancel one of them as only one membership is allowed per person. Viv.
Hi Viv
For some reason l couldnt get onto my old Wendolene email.. think it may well have been defunct! Sorry hadnt intended to have 2. Didnt think l had re registered as new member. Wendy
Hi Mutley. Please can you message Postie and Warren asking for one of the memberships to be deleted ? Thanks. I leave it with you which one to delete but the last time you used wendolene was in 2011. Wendolene is as far as I can see still an active account. Shall delete these last 3 posts when done. Viv.
Just click on the little envelope next to your user name on the blue bar above. Then “start a conversation”. Type in the names postie and Warren and type your message. Viv.
Mutley. Be great to see any photos etc of Beechmont Hotel if you’re happy to share. Members are always interested to see older photos and it all adds to our understanding of local history. Viv.
RRJ
Brummie Boomer
I'm presently researching my G Grandfathers siblings. His youngest brother, Thomas Edward Johnson lived and had a garage at 44 Sutton Rd (Wilmot House ) from the 20's to the 50's before moving the business to Tyburn Rd and his residence to Reddicap Hill, Sutton Coldfield.
@Typo's lovely picture of Wilmot House (thanks) shows the house itself but I'm wondering where the garage is?
I know they sold fuel etc.
Can I guess the Wilmot House pic is WW2 era with the crossed tape on the windows?
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
“Mr Edward Ansell and his family at home in the grounds of Moor Hall, Sutton Coldfield, 1907. Edward Ansell
(1849-1929) was best known in the Birmingham area as managing director of the brewery at Aston Manor developed by his father Joseph from a small maltsters business into a major Midland firm, but he was also prominent in local government and philanthropic work, being for many years closely associated with the welfare of the old Borough of Aston.”
Victorian and Edwardian War-wickshire : from old photographs. Publication date 1976.
