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But if you hunt around remnants of the past can still be found - wooden sleepers on the bay platform buffer stop:-
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Remnants of the old trackwork still remain:-
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Broken wooden sleeper on the bay platform line:-
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Platform 2 & 3 buildings are wonderfully preserved:-
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Metal plates on concrete platform footbridge:-
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And on the roadbridge:-
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Birmingham Archives & Collections have just posted, on Twitter, 'A map of Sutton Coldfield Town Centre and Adjoining Farm Land circa 1760 drawn by J H Hill in 1977 from various old plans and private surveys.'

I noticed a reference to the Hart Inn, roughly where the Royal is now. This is not mentioned by Roger Lea in his note on the Royal and I wondered if anyone had any information?


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Fascinating. I was brought up in Rectory Rd which didn't exist then, but appears to be where the footpath leads from the Church down to the Glebe and what became Rectory Park. Am I correct? Interesting that The Three Tuns and the Kings Arms were there.
 
Hi Ornette,

Thank you for posting the map. It may have been that the Hart Inn information wasn't available when Roger wrote about The Royal. Lots of things have come to light about Sutton and I expect more will be discovered in the future.

I'm going to the Sutton Coldfield Local History Research Group this afternoon and will see if anyone has any information for you. It's very sad but Sutton Library closes on Saturday so this is our last meeting there. We are effectively homeless and all the archives are being transferred to Birmingham (which is the right place for them). They need careful, expert handling and in some cases restoration.

We were hoping that the information in the reference section, on the open shelves, would be left in Sutton but unfortunately this isn't the case. We only had a month's notice of the closure date as did the staff. As you can see from the name we are primarily a research group and after Saturday we will have nothing to research and nowhere to do it!
 
Ornette said:
Birmingham Archives & Collections have just posted, on Twitter, 'A map of Sutton Coldfield Town Centre and Adjoining Farm Land circa 1760 drawn by J H Hill in 1977 from various old plans and private surveys.'

I noticed a reference to the Hart Inn, roughly where the Royal is now. This is not mentioned by Roger Lea in his note on the Royal and I wondered if anyone had any information?


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fantastic map thank you

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just looking again at the map on post 98 ...its says workhouse land so does anyone know if there was already a workhouse there or was it vacant land ready to build one on ?

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Ornette said:
Birmingham Archives & Collections have just posted, on Twitter, 'A map of Sutton Coldfield Town Centre and Adjoining Farm Land circa 1760 drawn by J H Hill in 1977 from various old plans and private surveys.'

I noticed a reference to the Hart Inn, roughly where the Royal is now. This is not mentioned by Roger Lea in his note on the Royal and I wondered if anyone had any information?


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June 1849 Freehold and Lease hold Auction includes two substantially built tournaments situated at Blabs, near town of Sutton and in the occupation of Edward Pattison and William Ingley.

Also…Excellent Meadow, called Blab’s Meadow and Great Blab’s Meadow.
 
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The workhouse was built ("The story of Sutton Coldfield" by Roger Lea) in 1737 on the site of the original Bishop Vesey Grammar School/It closed in 1837, and inhabitants then went to Edington.
 
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Ornette, as promised I went to the library this afternoon and asked the question.
JH Hill was a former member of the group some years ago.
The inn was called The White Hart rather than The Hart. It wasn't exactly on the site of the Royal but just a little further up. Probably approximately where Butco used to be in a 1960's building set back from the road.
The coming of the railway disturbed several properties and this may have been one.
It became a domestic property lived in by Miss Bracken, a notable Sutton resident and later by Mr Shirley Perkins. These names may help you pinpoint the property.
I still have one more avenue to explore and ŵill let you know any findings.
 
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