Summer Hill Wesleyan Chapel

[Vivienne14]

This was on Icknield Street West. The original chapel was alledged to have been replaced in 1873 by Summer Hill Church - does that mean on the same site ? If so, the church must have been demolished to make way for the Assay Office (in 1893 - a mere 20 years later ?) Does the photo show the church rather than, as labelled, the Chapel ?

Could someone locate it on a map, please ? Thanks.

 

[brummy-lad]

Could this be it in 1888? although it's off the end of icknield street and actually on Monument Road. It does say Wesleyan.

 

[Vivienne14]

Thanks brummy-lad, that looks likely. There's a three digit number above the entrance to the left, but I can't read it - possibly #158 ?

 

[pjmburns]

Thanks brummy-lad, that looks likely. There's a three digit number above the entrance to the left, but I can't read it - possibly #158 ?

Well spotted - it is #158

entry from 1868 Kelly'sLIsted on Icknield Street EAST

 

[pjmburns]

the 1878 entry is virtually the same

 

[pjmburns]

Icknield Street West became Monument Road

From 1878 drectory

 

[brummy-lad]

I'm not sure I've got it right in post #2, it would need to be #398. I'm sure Janice has the right building.
On the house #158 it says 'adult school social club'.

 

[Vivienne14]

Very helpful both. Thanks.

 

[pjmburns]

 

[Vivienne14]

Was there any renumbering of properties when Icknield Street West became Monument Road ? Wondering if the old Assay Office is shown at that position c1893 ?

 

[pjmburns]

I think it is stll the Methodist Church.
1913 map (best I could find)

 

[pjmburns]

1895 directory

I am sure it is the right place as Thomas Hyde is still listed at 158 but... no chapel

 

[Vivienne14]

I agree, Janice. The footprint of the church and surrounding features seem about right despite there probably having been some structural changes. There appear to be what I think are buttresses (?) around each side of the church (yellow dots), but only the front ones are visible on the photo.

If the chapel had gone by 1895, is it possible then that the Assay Office did actually replace it ? Is it shown on a map around this time? The problem is I've never seen a reference to an Assay Office at that location.

 

[pjmburns]

1892


in 1895 the Assay Office is listed at Newhall Street

 

[pjmburns]

The Mint was n Icknield Street
1892

 

[Vivienne14]

Ahh, the Mint !

 

[pjmburns]

I've had to stop looking to cook but at a quick glance not near the Chapel.

 

[pjmburns]

Will try to find a map later

 

[Vivienne14]

Yes, thanks, Janice. I'm well and truly lost ! Shall take a break too.

 

[brummy-lad]

I've spent the last hour trying to work out how the numbering changed on Icknield Street but no joy.
The map in post #11 is very similar to that in post #7 in which case #158 should have become #398.

 

[pjmburns]

We need input from Mike.

 

[Vivienne14]

We certainly do ! I found this on the Icknield Street thread, which in itself doesn't exactly move us any further forward, but at least it explains how Icknield Street West and East sat in relation to the later named Monument Road. Well, I think it does .... ! And I also think it must have involved some renumbering when the renaming of ISWest and ISEast to Monument Road came about.

 

[pjmburns]

Why did you think it was the Assay Office?

 

[Vivienne14]

I read it somewhere Janice, shall see if I can find it again.