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Staniforth Street

hi janice yes i think we are looking towards what looks like potter st on your map..thing is i cant find a potter st in kellys..it definately looks like there is a street running across in my photo but to be honest i am now more confused than ever lol
 
Lyn

I think Janice is right also, its the only logical solution. In the early 1900's the editions of Kelly's start numbering at Potter Street and the first commercial premises are 16-17 D R Price on the east side and the road continues down to Bagot Street. I think that Potter Street must have disappeared under the Central Fire Station at the beginning of the thirties.

So to answer your first question the number of the house next door to D R Price must have been number 14.
 
thanks phil that explains why i could not find potter st in the 1950s kellys...thanks also for the number 14...sorted

lyn
 
Sorry but have only just got to this thread. I did a lot of work some time ago trying to place the exact position of some buildings more to the north on the east side, and I remember this photo. Yes you are correct , the camera is pointed towards what was Potter st. The two maps below show that in the c 1937 map (probably surveyed about 1934-5) there was new buildings down the east side of the street at the bottom, and Potter st did not run across the bottom, whereas the c 1915 map (probably surveyed about 1913) had old houses with a gap in the houses at the far end, with potter st running across the bottom.
 

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Mike can you come up with the full name of the premises shown on Potter Street that is displayed on the Staniforth Street photo running across the end of the street. The part of the sign we can see reads Payne & Elliot but there is obviously another name before what we can see. I was nearly driven crazy last night trying to find the complete name.
 
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Mike can you come up with the full name of the premises shown on Potter Street that is displayed on the Staniforth Street photo running across the end of the street. The part of the sign we can see reads Payne & Elliot but there is obviously another name before what we can see. I was nearly driven crazy last night trying to find the complete name.
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same here phil..ive been through some earlier kellys and cant seem to find a firm in potter st with the names payne and elliot included...:mad:
 
Will have a look at the 1924 Kellys, which is analogue and downstairs, tomorrow. Havent found anything on the computer. The only firm I can find with Payne & Elliot in it with the word ending with N is Dawson, Payne & Elliot, who made printing equipment, but they seem to have been in Otley, though may have had an outpost.
 
thats it mike it has to be them i would think...if you look at the pic i posted the name reads

N.PAYNE AND ELLIOT...so i reckon the letter N is is the last letter of the name DAWSON
 
I found them as well Mike but it looks as if the other name ends in "H" as Lyn originally thought it was H Payne & Elliott.

Janice
 
morning janice...had a closer look at the photo and it definately is the letter N...i will also check some earlier kellys later on..
 
OK - I stand corrected. I have had a look for Dawson, Payne and Elliott in some phone books but no luck yet.

Janice
 
I'm puzzled by the timing of large changes shown on the various maps in this thread and in the Potter St thread.
Looking again at the Potter St Pic 1 - Staniforth St must be on the left just pass the telegraph pole. Further on down the road at the end of the street appears to be 'Moland' St read from the map in post#30
Pic 1 below shows considerable foreshortening but I have marked a building in it which appears to be in in the 2nd pic below.

Pic 1 with a building (3 floors and pointed roof) marked.
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Pic 2 with a building (3 floors and pointed roof) marked.
Pic 2 staniforth streetmod.jpg
The building to the right of the building I have marked looks slightly different but there were lots of changes.
The building at the end of the street in Pic 2 has broken windows so maybe demolition etc was due.
An additional thought ..... Pic 1 looks much earlier than Pic 2, also the name in Pic 2 appears to be painted on so could have been easily added.
 
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I thought Moland Street and Staniforth Street were parallel. If so then they would not be visible from each other.
Janice
 
Moland St can be seen running across the end of Potter St (Pic 1) so is parallel with Staniforth St.
 
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Sorry I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were saying our building was in Moland Street. Now we need to read the writing on the side of the building in pic 1.

Janice
 
pjmburns said:
OK - I stand corrected. I have had a look for Dawson, Payne and Elliott in some phone books but no luck yet.

Janice
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no need to stand corrected janice as as first i did think it was the letter H but on closer inspection i can now see its the letter N...quite a challenge finding DAWSON PAYNE AND ELLIOT in potter st....this is of course if we are right about it all...if we are wrong we can all go mad again lol

lyn
 
pjmburns said:
OK - I stand corrected. I have had a look for Dawson, Payne and Elliott in some phone books but no luck yet.

Janice
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no need to stand corrected janice as as first i did think it was the letter H but on closer inspection i can now see its the letter N...quite a challenge finding DAWSON PAYNE AND ELLIOT in potter st....this is of course if we are right about it all...if we are wrong we can all go mad again lol

lyn
 
oh thank goodness for that janice lol...good work..so now we know for definate that the photo i posted is looking towards potter st and showing DAWSON PAYNE AND ELLIOT..:) just saved that photo from the link you provided...

lyn
 
Mohawk
The two pictures are of different streets, although th ebuildings you mention are very similar. The one with the Weights & measures dept is Potter St (which , if it still existed , someone would probably be campaigning to rename it Harry Potter St), and the other is Staniforth St. The Staniforth st one has 3 story buildings all the way along, whereas the Potter st has 2 story ones to the right
 
Mike, I am aware that the pics were taken in two different streets.
Pic 2 was taken in Staniforth Street looking towards Potter Street.
Pic 1 was taken from a point in line with Potter Street looking along Potter Street towards Moland Street.
The building in question is on the right in Pic 1 next to the houses which can be seen in Janice's pic.
In Pic 1, Staniforth Street goes off to the left just past the telegraph pole, but due to foreshortening effect is not very clear.
 
I'm on an iPhone doing some gardening at the moment so not the best thing to post on, even from in my shed ... :rolleyes:
 
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