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St Phillips Church Cathedral
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Could it be Clarendon Hotel?
Removing the heavy, 7ft urns before replacement with copies in 1977. Wonder where the originals went ? Viv.
Walking through the Cathedral grounds doesn’t look quite so nice today. Trees and shrubs have gone, pity. I’d say the postcard was 1940s. Viv.
lovely view viv..have to say in my opinion there is not much in the city centre left that i would call pleasing on the eye
lyn
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
I have a number of Birmingham postcards, mostly common views, but there are a number of St Philips Cathedral, some of which also carry the title and the Burnaby monument. Who or what was this a monument to and is it still there? Second question: Why does Birmingham have two cathedrals?
Third Question: What are the denominations of the two cathedrals?
Fourth Question: Which one does the Archbishop of Birmingham pontificate from?
Over many years, I was wheeled in my pram, dragged unwillingly by my mother (war years), crossed town, all through the Churchyard from the 5a bus stop outside the churchyard to New Street et al and back through it to Grays and Lewises, but I have to admit to an ignorance of the above points. Why is it called St Philip's Church Cathedral?
With luck with my new laptop and scanner, some postcard copies might appear, but do not sit up for them.
Bob
Third Question: What are the denominations of the two cathedrals?
Fourth Question: Which one does the Archbishop of Birmingham pontificate from?
Over many years, I was wheeled in my pram, dragged unwillingly by my mother (war years), crossed town, all through the Churchyard from the 5a bus stop outside the churchyard to New Street et al and back through it to Grays and Lewises, but I have to admit to an ignorance of the above points. Why is it called St Philip's Church Cathedral?
With luck with my new laptop and scanner, some postcard copies might appear, but do not sit up for them.
Bob
pjmburns
master brummie
Burnaby monument:
en.wikipedia.org
By two cathedrals are you referring to St Philips and St Chads?
St Chads is the Roman Catholic Cathedral and St Philips is the Anglican Cathedral. As far as I know St Chad's has an Archbishop (currently Bernard Longley) and St Philips has a Bishop (currently David Urquhart).
Its name is said to be a tribute to the man who gave the land.
en.wikipedia.org
Frederick Burnaby - Wikipedia
By two cathedrals are you referring to St Philips and St Chads?
St Chads is the Roman Catholic Cathedral and St Philips is the Anglican Cathedral. As far as I know St Chad's has an Archbishop (currently Bernard Longley) and St Philips has a Bishop (currently David Urquhart).
Its name is said to be a tribute to the man who gave the land.
St Philip's Cathedral, Birmingham - Wikipedia
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Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Once again, thank you for a swift reply, that is the leaning monument of Birmingham presumably.Burnaby monument:
View attachment 161594Frederick Burnaby - Wikipedia
By two cathedrals are you referring to St Philips and St Chads?
St Chads is the Roman Catholic Cathedral and St Philips is the Anglican Cathedral. As far as I know St Chad's has an Archbishop (currently Bernard Longley) and St Philips has a Bishop (currently David Urquhart).
Its name is said to be a tribute to the man who gave the land.
St Philip's Cathedral, Birmingham - Wikipedia
Bob
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
I knew about Liverpool, but I did not know St Pauls was a cathedral and I thought Westminster, although a catholic cathedral was the cathedral for the City Of Westminster....somebody put me right if only to stop me waffling on uselessly. So Cardinal now St Newman would have been connected with St Chads.
Bob
pjmburns
master brummie
I knew I should have tried the clip from streeview again.
Here is the link to treetview
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pjmburns
master brummie
Westminster is the base for the Archbishop of Westminster who is the Head of the Roman Catholic church in England and Wales. This is currently Cardinal Vincent Nicholls - the former Archbishop of Birmingham. The Head of the RC church in England and Wales is often named a cardinal after appointment as Archbishop of Westminster.
There are other cathedrals in London because of the size of the City but I wasn't going to cloud the issue
Cardinal St John Henry Newman is a different story. He was not based at St Chad's. He started as an Anglican clergyman, converted to Catholicism in 1845 (I had to look that up), became a Catholic priest and eventually founded the Oratory in Birmingham. He was made a Cardinal in recognition of his work for the church in England. He lived at the Oratory until his death.
Hope that answers some of your questions. We are now off topic so I will stop there.
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
No you are never off topic, just very interesting thank you very much for all of that. I should finish with a blessingWestminster is the base for the Archbishop of Westminster who is the Head of the Roman Catholic church in England and Wales. This is currently Cardinal Vincent Nicholls - the former Archbishop of Birmingham. The Head of the RC church in England and Wales is often named a cardinal after appointment as Archbishop of Westminster.
There are other cathedrals in London because of the size of the City but I wasn't going to cloud the issue
Cardinal St John Henry Newman is a different story. He was not based at St Chad's. He started as an Anglican clergyman, converted to Catholicism in 1845 (I had to look that up), became a Catholic priest and eventually founded the Oratory in Birmingham. He was made a Cardinal in recognition of his work for the church in England. He lived at the Oratory until his death.
Hope that answers some of your questions. We are now off topic so I will stop there.
Bob
Can’t say I remember a bird bath in the churchyard. Viv.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Source: British Newspaper Archive
A long, but interesting history and account of the Churchyard. From races around the Churchyard to duplicate tombstones.
Viv.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Viv.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
From Charles Radcliffe's Birmingham (1840) showing St Phillips and churchyard. The Churchyard looks incredibly full. Did the avenue of trees (right) become part of Colmore Row ? Viv.
Beautiful Burne-Jones windows
