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St Marys Church - William & Elizabeth Jackson 1850

Thanks.
If Elizabeth died in 1924 then there is a burial at Witton for an Elizabeth Jackson. It might be worth enquiring as it might be a joint grave with William.
 
It must have been before 1925 and 1923 so perhaps. You beat me to it as thats what I was looking for next. I take it Witton is the church?
 
4E23A0FA-CDD6-4908-A1A2-A9168AE14481.pngThis is one of the burial records of Elizabeth but different address. It’s close by so maybe where she went to die. Can’t quite read the first part of the address but searched online and didn’t find any ER records.
 
6691AB14-FCDF-4F37-8E85-3452B3DF21C4.pngThis is the other one from Witton Cemetry but again a different address. There is another potential from Yardley Cemtry and William there too I haven’t bought.


They cost £10 each from Birmingham Council which is quite pricey for what you get.

Is there another way to find out bar walking around the churchyard?

Tim.
 
First of all - slow down before buying things. We have all been there and spent money for "wrong" records rushing to find out info.
Always try to match things up before ordering. The possible death I posted in post #39 was in the first quarter of 1924 so the burial record to get would be the 1924 burial at Witton in the January. Check does the age roughly match the census record? in this case census suggests 1851 and death record suggests 1845 - could be possible as they didn't bother too much about ages. If you check the 1922 death on Ancestry it says born 1922 as well. so we can ignore that.
Then check for other deaths - I only posted the 1924 one because of the possible burial. I did not mean you to go buying it because we had found it. Check carefully before spending money.
What do we know for certain? Elizabeth on 1920 ER but not on 1925 - years between are not online. We could narrow it down by a visit to check the paper ER in Birmingham library but that it not worth a trip unless we can look up other info. (Not sure where you live so that may be impossible).
There are other possible deaths - so patience is needed - these are just 2 possibles.
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I don't mean to be critical but am trying to offer advice so you do not waste too much money. If it was me I would ring or email Yardley and ask if they are able to tell you any more about the 1921 burial/cremation. Then possibly order a pdf copy of the death cert from the GRO - comes in about 5 days.
By the way there is a William Jackson listed for Yardley in February so would add him to my request but I would not spend £10 on buying the record - yet.
Come back here and ask - some of us have been searching for years and have learned from our mistakes. We can and will offer advice. Good luck.

Sorry but the 1924 one is not right as a check on ER shows that one with a Frank and Emily Jackson in 1922 at 7 court 5 Upper Highgate Street.
 
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By the way a 1921 death for William does not fully explain why he is not on 1920 eroll. However he may have been ill in hospital and they didn't add him. Place of death might help with that.
 
pjmburns said:
First of all - slow down before buying things. We have all been there and spent money for "wrong" records rushing to find out info.
Always try to match things up before ordering. The possible death I posted in post #39 was in the first quarter of 1924 so the burial record to get would be the 1924 burial at Witton in the January. Check does the age roughly match the census record? in this case census suggests 1851 and death record suggests 1845 - could be possible as they didn't bother too much about ages. If you check the 1922 death on Ancestry it says born 1922 as well. so we can ignore that.
Then check for other deaths - I only posted the 1924 one because of the possible burial. I did not mean you to go buying it because we had found it. Check carefully before spending money.
What do we know for certain? Elizabeth on 1920 ER but not on 1925 - years between are not online. We could narrow it down by a visit to check the paper ER in Birmingham library but that it not worth a trip unless we can look up other info. (Not sure where you live so that may be impossible).
There are other possible deaths - so patience is needed - these are just 2 possibles.
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I don't mean to be critical but am trying to offer advice so you do not waste too much money. If it was me I would ring or email Yardley and ask if they are able to tell you any more about the 1921 burial/cremation. Then possibly order a pdf copy of the death cert from the GRO - comes in about 5 days.
By the way there is a William Jackson listed for Yardley in February so would add him to my request but I would not spend £10 on buying the record - yet.
Come back here and ask - some of us have been searching for years and have learned from our mistakes. We can and will offer advice. Good luck.

Sorry but the 1924 one is not right as a check on ER shows that one with a Frank and Emily Jackson in 1922 at 7 court 5 Upper Highgate Street.
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Thanks so much. Your right about rushing, I am a nightmare for it, so lesson learnt.

Right I will get on to the above and let you know. I live in Devon so not as easy to go to the cemetery but do visit so I will ring them first.

Thanks so much for your help as I am new to all of this so great to get some advice.

Tim.
 
Tim.
The offices are not open as much at the moment so an email may be better.
If you get grave details let us know as someone may be able to visit. Don't be surprised if there is no stone as there are a lot of unmarked graves at both Yardley and Witton.
Keep us posted.
 
pjmburns said:
Tim.
The offices are not open as much at the moment so an email may be better.
If you get grave details let us know as someone may be able to visit. Don't be surprised if there is no stone as there are a lot of unmarked graves at both Yardley and Witton.
Keep us posted.
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Ok will do. Thanks.
 
pjmburns said:
By the way a 1921 death for William does not fully explain why he is not on 1920 eroll. However he may have been ill in hospital and they didn't add him. Place of death might help with that.
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Another case where the 1921 census should help. Even if William isn't there, Elizabeth's marital status will be of interest.

A widow and that rules out Mar 1922 Bham death. There is a death registered Jun qtr 1920 Kings Norton, again age slightly out.
 
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Another case where the 1921 census should help. Even if William isn't there, Elizabeth's marital status will be of interest.

A widow and that rules out Mar 1922 Bham death. There is a death registered Jun qtr 1920 Kings Norton, again age slightly out.
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Trouble in 1921 census was June and, if 1921 death is right, she would not be listed but it could help to check.
 
Excellent work so now you know that you can follow up the burial/cremation. Death cert would be the first I posted in post # 48.
I was hoping there was probate for William but unlikely as he left a widow.
 
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Can also possibly rule out the Jun 1920 Kings Norton death using the probate, and it appears to be a different William Jackson.

Which, if he attended his sons wedding in 1920 and Elizabeth was a widow when she died in 1921, leaves no likely death for him in Warwickshire between those dates.
 
If I have the right family then William's birth was reg in 1852 in Stourbridge - he states his place of birth as Halesowen on census.
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whihch seems to leave us
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but that means he did not attend the wedding. but would explain why he is not on the 1920 ER.
 
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