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Astoness

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this pic is of great interest to me being my neck o the woods but it will be impossible to fix a location on it:( caption reads....A HAULAGE WAGON IN HOCKLEY STUCK ON COBBLESTONES LIFTED BY FLOODWATER....just wondering if it may have been near hunters vale...the houses were right next to hockley brook which saw great floods in about 1921 i think...

lyn
 
Lyn not my side of town but the wagon interests me would that be R. Whites the lemonade people. Dek
 
Dek i dont think so its something to do with what the men are doing to the old cobbled street


Mossy
 
yes it ws around he hockleybrook area between farm street and the old brook
and it would have been carrying gallons of soda water lemonade it was once the bottom of alma street
in the old days before any redesigning of the roads in the brum
in fact it would hve been yards past the coffee shop with the old red fire stand out on the corner
there was a batch of houses
at this precise moment i cannot think of the rd that aces farm st today
but coming down from the old six ways which wa gerrard st instead of turning into farm street
continue towards the brook just past there about two hundred yards that where that happend
and that was in the days of mr white is self the founder of the company
and i would like t mention that i have mentioned before in history of this forum that my grand father made the formula for mr whites soda lemaode in around prior to that period as i was informed by an aunt when i was a child
passing the house he lived in on gerrard st and told me on the bus which stopped out side there house and
pointed thats where your grand father made a formula for lemonade and sold it to mr white she told me
and just along the rd was fro there your other grand fathers brother owns that tea shop [ coffee shop charles ;]
but getting back to the wagon thats where the incident took place of white wagon ;
 
Mossy seems a bit strange if they had come to repair the road they would park the wagon on top of the damage. Dek
 
point taken dek...as said in post 1 the caption says the wagon got stuck trying to go over the cobbles that were lifted during the floods...im no expert on these things but maybe this indicates that the the brook may have possably have run under this street... just a theory...

lyn
 
lynn
As a matter of thought where did you get your picture from
i think if one of our guys check the sunday mercury round 1956-7
all our yesterdays it was inthere the picture and the excact location
and the more i think about it you are probaley correct when you said the vale
because the section i suggest was the vale,and its only when they started to modrenised that stretch
and put a put a port acabin bulding of a catholic school nursery to start with they named it nursery rd
from there back tofarm street they knocked down the house and built new factory premises
and right around to hockley brook where upon they built the new halfords ware house
after the big fire in the city by costa green and in fact i think they calledit corporation st
which was in the fiftys alan ;;
 
hi alan.i found the pic in a 1995 copy of an old brum newpaper...i guess we will never find out the exact location of it but you never know....

my dad lived in the original houses in hunters vale as a young boy but the flood of a few years earlier had taken its toll on the houses and they were demolished...dad then moved just round the corner in one of the mainsonettes right next to the brook...(corner of hunters vale and villa st)

here is a pic of the hunters vale flooding...its most likely that members of my family could be on this pic but i have no way of confirming that..

lyn:)
 
ray this is one of my prized pics..had to pay to get a good copy of it...hunters vale is in a square so the turn to the left will bring you out into villa st and the turn to the right brings you out onto farm st...the queens head pub is still there on the corner of farm st and hunters vale...yes i agree i think thats what they are doing...

lyn
 
HI Lynn
first of all thats a cracking picture a nice sharp one .yes they are pumping the cellar out
and you say your folks are there , that as to be a gem to your self keep .
secondly ;lynn; i said it was around the 55-57 era when i seen that report it was slightly later
it would slightly in the early 60,s -61 . era it was after my father died i travelled that way nightly
other wise i would not recall or passing that spot so i was wrong to check the sunday mercury for that period
it was the later date and on a sunday evening i passed throughthat spot
and i remember the cobble stones nd when they built that bit of a catholic schol for infants by nuns
and i know orininaly it was started by nuns because i had my three little nippes at the tim start there as a temperarary measure
thirdly now you have jogged my memory it was the corner of villa st ; the rd i could not think off ;thank you
and as you pointed out when coming to the corner ofvilla street turn towrds the brook that row of housesbefore that building they made a little nursery they called that section as part of nursery rd and i beleive thats why later nursery rd became it was at one time gerrard st all the way down to farm street
i will not forget the question of that horse and cart i hope in he next couple of weeks to get to central
and i will spend the day at the libary scouring for the pic ,
i am a person whom as the bone between my teeth i will not let go even in dicussion with people
i go away and i come back and say to them .do you remember that so and so
any way lynn please keep your teaser coming it a good way of getting the old grey matter ticking over
Alan ;;
 
alan..once again thanks for you memories...they are always most interesting...hope you have some luck at the library when you go and dont worry i shall keep on posting these brain teasers for you...like you say it keeps the little grey matter busy...lol..

take care...

lyn
 
same here paul....what better than sitting in front of the fire with a bag of crisps...glass of lemonade watching dr who...in black and white of course...:)oops sorry...im rambling again...lol
 
Hello Lyn
How the devil are you! seems ages since I spoke to you you are of course quite right. It seems that although money was very tight you always enjoyed those little treats did'nt you.
regards
paul
 
I went to St Marys Convent School from 1948 until 1953. Can anyone remember whether it was in Hunters Road or Nursery Road. I remember it was at the bottom of Wretham Road opposite St Francis Catholic Church. Was it associated with the nursery? The school was run by nuns.
 
Thanks for the map. St Marys school must have been in Hunters Road........I know we used to cross the road from school every day to go into the church.
 
"Yes I can remember it well, and that's me third along from the copper, it was a Tuesday, and it was raining quiet heavily, and then we all went home for our tea. The End"
 
What year would this flood of been?i am sure i remember our dad knowing someone when he was a lad being drown,and i think the boys body was found somewhere by burbury park.not sure though our dad was born in1913 .
 
hi topsy..have you seen the pic i posted on post 9....your dad is right about a boys body being found after the floods...i have read about it but cant find the info just now...the floods happened round about 1921..

lyn
 
Thanks lyn, i wished our dad was here now to ask.He had that many stories to tell,But of course when your young you don,t take a lot of notice.
 
Here is a few photos of Hockley


Lodge_Road_with_All_Saints_St.jpg




Hockley_Flyover_1970.jpg




Hockley_Flyover_1967.jpg


Regards Stars
 
During my last year at school I worked before and after school and Saturdays at C V Bull's butchers in Hockley Brook. In the morning I would deliver meat to the local bus garage and in the evening I would regularly have to go to Spring Hill library to change the manager's library book.

HockleyBull.gif
 
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