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Short Harry

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Brummiebell

master brummie
Harry was born in 1853 and was we believe married to the daughter of Francis and Emma English. He was a rule maker and also worked in the Gun trade in Duddeston. He was I believe my Great Grandfather although he never married my Great Grandmother they lived together for twenty Eight years and had eight children together. He died in 1911. Any information about him or his relatives would be very appreciated, especially the English's. Francis was a retired Woollen Draper aged seventy with a much younger wife and had two other younger children but is not showing on previous census's and we would like to know Harry's wife's name. Also believe Harry had another illegitimate daughter called Gladys and would love to know what happened to her. Please does anyone know anything about him.
 
Re: Harry Short

Don't know if the following is any good to you?
Marriages Dec 1858
Francis English Aston 6d 461
Emma Short Aston 6d 461
1861
Francis English aged 61 Head born Bath, Somerset,Retired Draper
Emma English aged 36 Wife born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Clara Short aged 11 StepDaughter born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Henry Short aged 8 StepSon born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Francis English aged 1 Son Birmingham, Warwickshire
living in Wattville Street,Handsworth, Staffordshire
1851
Francis English aged 55 Head born Bath, Somerset,Cook Agent
Sarah English aged 50 Wife born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Sarah A English aged 29 Daughter Teacher Of P Forte born Birmingham,
Edmund English aged 28 Son born Birmingham,Engraver
Samuel English aged 24 Son born Birmingham,Die Sinker
Jane Wallis aged 19 Servant born Castle Bromwich, Warwickshire,House Servant
living at Thomas Street, Aston, Warwickshire
FRANCIS ENGLISH
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH STEEN
Marriage: 29 APR 1817 Edgbaston, Warwick, England
 
Re: Harry Short

Also found the following christenings
SARAH ANN ENGLISH
Birth: 29 APR 1819
Christening: 30 DEC 1819 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Parents:
Father: FRANCIS ENGLISH
Mother: SARAH
EDMUND WILLIAM ENGLISH
Birth: 14 JAN 1822
Christening: 01 FEB 1825 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Parents:
Father: FRANCIS ENGLISH Family
Mother: SARAH

Possible christening of theelder Francis English
FRANCIS ENGLISH
Christening: 15 JAN 1792 Roman Catholic, Bath, Somerset, England
Parents:
Father: EDMUND ENGLISH
Mother: MARGARET
 
Re: Harry Short

Thank you so much for all that, how come I couldn't find it? However now I am a bit dubious as to if the 1871 census got it wrong and is Harry the Henry Short mentioned as the age fits, it could mean stepson not Son in Law. However it could be that Clara Short is the mystery wife of Harry and I will have a look for a marriage cert for them. This is definitely the correct family though although where Harry fits into it needs a bit of investigation. Henry isn't mentioned on the 1871 and Harry is the same age. They look as though they are quite well to do as well which surprises me especially in Francis's first marriage, I will try to look up the addresses and see. Didn't imagine Harry coming from a good family somehow, as he seems a bit of a bounder with all these wives and girlfriends around. Thank you again for that it really gives me a lot to think about.
 
Re: Harry Short

I worked with a Stanley (Stan) Short he is 80yrs old, hope this helps. Len.
 
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