jennygeorge
proper brummie kid
I am trying to find out about my grandfather's early years - from his birth in 1891to his marriage to my grandmother in 1917.
He never told his family much at all about his childhood except that he had been in a home or orphanage and that he had no birth certificate because it had been burned in a fire!
I have traced his birth to 11th February 1891 at 36 Miller Street Aston (sub district Duddeston). On his birth certificate his father is named as Samuel Saunders (which ties up with the father's name on his marriage certificate) and his occupation is given as bicycle worker. The mother's name is EMMA Saunders formerly Spooner.
On the 1891 census Arthur, 2 months old is listed with his father Samuel and mother MARIA aged 29 at 66 Miller Street Aston. I sent for Frank's birth certificate - he was born 30th March 1892 at 96 Miller Street, father Samuel bicycle fitter and mother LOUISA Saunders formerly Spooner.
So now I have three different mother's names but have not been able to trace a marriage between a Samuel Saunders or Sanders to anyone called Spooner.
I have received a death certificate for a Maria Louisa Saunders who died on 3rd November 1893 aged 31 and she was the wife of Samuel Saunders who was a bicycle wheel maker. They were living at 1 back 52 Burbury? Street in the sub district of Saint George Birmingham. I have found a birth for a Maria Louisa Spooner in 1862 who could be the mother of these children.
Their mother's early death could be the reason why they were in a home but why can't I find either Arthur or Frank in the 1901?
Sorry to have waffled on so much but I wanted to get all the facts in in the hope that someone recognises or has a connection with the names Spooner and Saunders and give me a nudge in the right direction.
Many thanks
Jenny
He never told his family much at all about his childhood except that he had been in a home or orphanage and that he had no birth certificate because it had been burned in a fire!
I have traced his birth to 11th February 1891 at 36 Miller Street Aston (sub district Duddeston). On his birth certificate his father is named as Samuel Saunders (which ties up with the father's name on his marriage certificate) and his occupation is given as bicycle worker. The mother's name is EMMA Saunders formerly Spooner.
On the 1891 census Arthur, 2 months old is listed with his father Samuel and mother MARIA aged 29 at 66 Miller Street Aston. I sent for Frank's birth certificate - he was born 30th March 1892 at 96 Miller Street, father Samuel bicycle fitter and mother LOUISA Saunders formerly Spooner.
So now I have three different mother's names but have not been able to trace a marriage between a Samuel Saunders or Sanders to anyone called Spooner.
I have received a death certificate for a Maria Louisa Saunders who died on 3rd November 1893 aged 31 and she was the wife of Samuel Saunders who was a bicycle wheel maker. They were living at 1 back 52 Burbury? Street in the sub district of Saint George Birmingham. I have found a birth for a Maria Louisa Spooner in 1862 who could be the mother of these children.
Their mother's early death could be the reason why they were in a home but why can't I find either Arthur or Frank in the 1901?
Sorry to have waffled on so much but I wanted to get all the facts in in the hope that someone recognises or has a connection with the names Spooner and Saunders and give me a nudge in the right direction.
Many thanks
Jenny
