saddlers arms aldridge road

[Astoness]

dated 1959..some may remember this pub but it was gone before my memory of the area

lyn

 

[A Sparks]

Some information about the photograph...

Date:April 1959

Description:Saddlers Arms, Aldridge Road, Perry Barr, between Franchise Street (to the left) and Birchfield Road School. From a private photographic survey of buildings demolished for the Birchfield Road underpass scheme, April 1959.

 

[Astoness]

thanks sparks...looking at the design of the pub makes me wonder when it was built..maybe someone could check the directories to find out when it was first mentioned..shame its no longer there as i would have been in their long before now

lyn

 

[A Sparks]

thanks sparks...looking at the design of the pub makes me wonder when it was built..maybe someone could check the directories to find out when it was first mentioned..shame its no longer there as i would have been in their long before now

lyn

The reason I found the description was as I wondered whereabouts it was on the Aldridge Road but, after reading the location and as a pupil at Birchfield Road school, I do remember the pub now!

 

[SamJ]

Some information about the photograph...

Date:April 1959

Description:Saddlers Arms, Aldridge Road, Perry Barr, between Franchise Street (to the left) and Birchfield Road School. From a private photographic survey of buildings demolished for the Birchfield Road underpass scheme, April 1959.

I thought this row of shops was on the site of what would subsequently be Birmingham Poly.

 

[pjmburns]

Reference in 1878 paper

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[Astoness]

I thought this row of shops was on the site of what would subsequently be Birmingham Poly.

yes sam...here is a map showing the pub at 16/18 aldridge road

lyn

Georeferenced Maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland

 

[pjmburns]

1966 map

Comparing to 1887 map I think it might have had another use.

 

[Astoness]

not sure about that jan...looks to me as though the pub is next to the brass foundry shown as just works on the 1966 map..also the pub has an entry next to it shown on both maps although by 1966 the entry was larger...i think

lyn

 

[pjmburns]

I just meant it might have been used as something else before becoming a pub.

 

[mikejee]

Certainly the
Saddlers is not specifically marked on the 25 inch 1913 map, but is marked on the similar, but incomplete 1938 map

 

[pjmburns]

The William Siddons from the article in post #6 is named in 1880 directory and on 1881 census as a beer retailer on Aldridge Road.

 

[Astoness]

The William Siddons from the article in post #6 is named in 1880 directory and on 1881 census as a beer retailer on Aldridge Road.

thanks jan...i wished i could have gone into that pub

lyn

 

[brummy-lad]

There is no Kelly's record of The Saddlers Arms up to 1921, first record is 1932 but I have no access to Kelly's between these dates.

 

[Vivienne14]

There's a newspaper report dating Sadlers Arms pub back to 1901, the earliest reference I could find. The latest reference being 1944.


Source: British Newspaper Archive

 

[pjmburns]

The article I posted from 1878 calls it the Saddler's Arms but it isn't listed as such just beer retailers

 

[Vivienne14]

The building in post #1 looks like 1930s to me. Perhaps a replacement for Mr Siddons Sadlers Arms. Maybe he couldn't call it/or list it as a public house because he didn't have a full licence.

 

[mikejee]

The 1924 Kellys lists no 16 as Percival H.Thomas, beer retailer

 

[Astoness]

i would think that by now most members know of this map site but for those that dont leave the map choice on 1944 to 1974 then just change where it says choose a place name ie franchise street birmingham then if you move the blue dot to the left the map will fade out and show you what is there now and you can also move the map around...i have had endless hours of fun moving around birmingham..enjoy

lyn

Georeferenced Maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland

 

[Vivienne14]

The Birmingham archives caption for the photo in post #1 tells us the pub was demolished in 1959 as part of the road redevelopment.

Description:Saddlers Arms, Aldridge Road, Perry Barr, between Franchise Street (to the left) and Birchfield Road School. From a private photographic survey of buildings demolished for the Birchfield Road underpass scheme, April 1959.

 

[pjmburns]

I thought it meant the photo was April 1959. The building is still on 1966 map I posted in post #8 However I don't know when that was surveyed

 

[Astoness]

The reason I found the description was as I wondered whereabouts it was on the Aldridge Road but, after reading the location and as a pupil at Birchfield Road school, I do remember the pub now!

hi sparks what years would that be

lyn

 

[A Sparks]

hi sparks what years would that be

lyn

I was at Birchfield from January 1956 until 1962. I remember the area before the Underpass was constructed and also when it opened. I'm fairly sure I can remember the pub but maybe I'm just imagining I can!

 

[SamJ]

yes sam...here is a map showing the pub at 16/18 aldridge road

lyn

Georeferenced Maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland

Thanks, Lyn. Would you be able to look something up for me but it may be a case of putting it up for wider discussion. I looked at an old map and prior to Franchise Street being called 'Franchise Street' it was named something else. It resonated with me as i spent many years at Bham Poly and thought it quite fitting. I have tried to find this information again but alas not.

 

[Astoness]

Thanks, Lyn. Would you be able to look something up for me but it may be a case of putting it up for wider discussion. I looked at an old map and prior to Franchise Street being called 'Franchise Street' it was named something else. It resonated with me as i spent many years at Bham Poly and thought it quite fitting. I have tried to find this information again but alas not.

hi sam well that is news to me but hopefully some of our map experts can check old maps to see if it was called something else before becoming franchise st as i am also interested

lyn

 

[A Sparks]

Thanks, Lyn. Would you be able to look something up for me but it may be a case of putting it up for wider discussion. I looked at an old map and prior to Franchise Street being called 'Franchise Street' it was named something else. It resonated with me as i spent many years at Bham Poly and thought it quite fitting. I have tried to find this information again but alas not.

It was definitely called Franchise Street when the Birchfield Road schools were still there so before the Poly was built. A girl in my class lived there.

 

[pjmburns]

Thanks, Lyn. Would you be able to look something up for me but it may be a case of putting it up for wider discussion. I looked at an old map and prior to Franchise Street being called 'Franchise Street' it was named something else. It resonated with me as i spent many years at Bham Poly and thought it quite fitting. I have tried to find this information again but alas not.

It is marked as Franchise Street on the 1887 map. The earliest I have found so far.

 

[Astoness]

It is marked as Franchise Street on the 1887 map. The earliest I have found so far.

thanks jan that is what i have found...sticking my neck out here but i dont think the houses were built much before that date but as always i stand to be corrected as they could have been and maybe as sam said the street had another name before it became franchise st..would love to find out for certain

lyn

 

[pjmburns]

Just done an address search on FMP and there is a Franchise Street Handsworth listed on 1861 census and later but not 1851.

Have now found it listed on 1861 on Ancestry.

 

[pjmburns]

Have now found a reference to Franchise Street Perry Barr (boundary changes between Perry Barr and Handsworth) in 1848.