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re: jerusalem memorial, Israel

sheri

master brummie
My great uncle Frederick Bray, age 22 was a private in the Queens Own Worcester Hussars (Worcestershir Yeomanry). He was killed in Palestine in 1916/Egypt. He is on the Jerusalem Memorial in Israel. Does this mean that his body was never found so he has no grave? I have a letter (very fragile) sent to my grandmother dated 27 February 1916 which must have reached about the time he was killed. Fred couldn't say where he was because of sensorship but he did say they were expecting the Turks to come and that they went into the desert for a week at a time. I would love to know more if someone can help.
Many thanks,
Sheri

P.S. I also have a letter from another gt.uncle from the Boar War but don't know where to ask about this.
 
Hi Sheri :) You can get further details on this lovely fellow at CWGC.org
the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, just click on & you can get precise info,
Here is some,, Frederick James Bray age 23 , + details you already have re Regiment.
His number is 325578 killed in action 24/04/1916
Details on panels 3 & 5 Jerusalem Memorial (By Haddassa Hospital & Hyatt Hotel, present day )

Son of James & Sophie Bray of Barn Close, St Johns, Worcs,
Husband of Lilian Bray, 41 Astwood Road, Worcs..

Hope this assists your searches,

ps Try your Boer war, relative on this same site,, Be lucky,, Cheers JohnY :cool:
 
Hi Sheri,

Soldiers Died Great War records:

Name: Frederick James BRAY
Number: 325578
Rank: Private
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (Incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)
Battalion: Worcester Yeomanry (The Queen's Own Worcestershire Hussars)
Born: Powick
Enlisted: Worcester
Residence: Worcester
Died Date: 23 Apr 16
Died How: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Egypt

This is his Death Certificate details:

Bray Frederick J, Pte., 325578, Worc. Y., 1916, Volume C.2, Page 237

Here is his Medal Index Card (his service record is not on Ancestry):

Doug
 
Hope this helps. Googled for info on the Worcs Yeomanry

War was declared in August 1914 and the Worcestershire's formed part of the 1st Midland Mounted Brigade commanded by Brigadier E.A. Wiggin. The Brigade was ordered to Egypt and was based in Chatby Camp, close to Alexandria , by April 1915.[12] In August the Brigade were informed they were to fight as infantry, and were sent to Suvla Bay , and took part in the Gallipoli campaign. The Regiment were in support of the Anzacs and other British soldiers, in an attempt to break through the Turkish defences.These Turkish defences on the hills overlooking the beaches proved too strong and Gallipoli was evacuated in January 1916.[13] The Regiment was sent to Egypt , where their casualties were replaced by fresh troops from England and the Regiment was sent to protect thee eastern side of the Suez Canal.The Regiment dug wells and sent out patrols for reconnaissance to establish the location of the Turkish attack, the Regiment being responsible for patrolling the whole of the Qatia water area. [14] The small isolated garrison at Oghratine had been ordered to protect a party on egineers on a well digging expedition ,when at dawn on April 23, 1916 , 3,000 Turkish troops, including a machine gun battery of 12 guns, attacked. The defending troops repulsed the first attack but were forced back by the weight of the onslaught. The defender's only machine gun was put out of action early in the attack and all the gunners were killed or wounded.[15] The victorious Turkish troops then advancede to reinforce the attack taking place against the small garrison at Qatia. Qatia fell to the Turkish forces with the loss of all of the Yeomanry's officers except a Major W.H. Wiggin who was wounded and managed to withdraw with about half the squadron. Anzac troops, who occupied both Qatia and Oghradine four days later, testified to the ferocity of the battle and paid tribute to the valour and tenacity of the defenders.[16] In these actions 9 officers and 102 NCOs and men of the Regiment were killed and many other wounded. A composite regiment, including the Worcestershire Yeomanry, was formed in August 1916 and together with Anzac regiments were tasked to force back some 48,000
 
Dear John, Procat and Terry, Thank you so much for looking up the information about my gt.uncle, Fred Bray. You all know so much about the subject. I shall go on that site and see if I can track down others in my family who were old enough for WW1. John, I didn't know Fred was married - I wonder if he had children? A b it more delving is needed I think - I shall have to visit Kew again. Terry, I have this very fragile letter written to my grandmother in Feb 1916 where Fred talks about going out into the desert for a week at a time. I took these b its and pieces when my Nan died and I'm thankful I did because they would have been lost. The Boer War relative was Len Bray, Fred's older brother - they were a family of about 14!!
It's all very interesting but sad that so many young men lost their lives.
Thanks once again,
Sheri.

PS My nine year old grandson is going to be doing WW1 as a topic next September. So I have some information for him if he has to do a project.
 
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