Queens Head Pub Dartmouth Street

[mikejee]

From this advert in The Era (which was an entertainment business journal) it seems the Queen's head was once the home of an aerial bicyclist

In 1889 Darmouth St numbering was different and the Queen's Head was numbered 99, and this name is written in the 1891 census ( though the writing makes it look like The Queeses Head), where the landlord was George Cammerer

 

[Astoness]

thats great info mike...many thanks..i do have an interest in dartmouth st as i had rellies there in 1841/51...when you have time could you go to the viaduct pub thread please...

lyn

 

[pjmburns]

I love any info about Dartmouth Street as my husband was born and lived there for the first 6 years of his life. Thanks for the photo Lyn.

Janice

 

[Astoness]

I love any info about Dartmouth Street as my husband was born and lived there for the first 6 years of his life. Thanks for the photo Lyn.

Janice

happy to help janice...i will see if i can get any photos of dartmouth street not sure if we have a thread for that street but i will check later on.

lyn

 

[Astonian]

Hi GUYS;
I HOPE NOBODY MINDS ME BRINGING BACK THIS THREAD ,AND ADDING TO PREVIOUS MEMBERS SUGGESTIONS ON THIS PUB
I CANNOT STATE THE NAME OF THE PUB ;
BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE A VERY OLD BOOK WHICH WAS PRINTED IN BIRMINGHAM CALLED [ Birmingham INNS AND PUBS ]
And on old picture post cards ; i knew i had the book with this subject on the unknown pub darthmouth street ;
but because i have hundreds of these books and the original old fashioned ledgers which are true to the fact of form and written legit
by the original inn keepers and old and past licences of various pubs around brum;
as i have said in time gone bye i worked for mitchells and butlers and other brewers also my old dutchess almost over the country ;
and may i add i used to know brum and its nic knacks like the back of my hand and pubs around brum
oh well ; never mind that bit ,
but what i have is this book mentioioned and i knew the picture of this unknown pub would be in it but due to the fact of the number of pubs and Inns ledgers i have
them all over the place and not being to well i did struggle to get them sorted out
but any way here is my latest info; for you
It is an MITCHELLS and Butlers pub at 255 dartmouth street in 1908 AND IN KELLYS DIRECTORY AND LISTS THE PREMISES AS A BEER RETAILER
[ WILLIAM SMITH ] BUT UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT GIVE THE NAME OF THE INN
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR PICTURE [ THE REAR CAB] BELONGED TO BENJAMIN THORPE, CAB PROPRIETOR
OFF BAKER STREET SPARKHILL ;
BEST WISHES TO ONE AND ALL ; Astonian;;; Alan;;;

 

[Simon68]

Hi everyone,
I know this thread hasn’t been commented on for nearly eight years, but I have some great news…
I have a 2 1\2 pence pub token from the Queens Head with the address of 99 Dartmouth Street, which puts it to around the mid 1890’s, with the landlord shown as a G.Cammerer, which is quite obviously George Cammerer as mentioned in the earlier replies
Please see the pictures below.
Regards

 

[BabsH]

Hi everyone,
I know this thread hasn’t been commented on for nearly eight years, but I have some great news…
I have a 2 1\2 pence pub token from the Queens Head with the address of 99 Dartmouth Street, which puts it to around the mid 1890’s, with the landlord shown as a G.Cammerer, which is quite obviously George Cammerer as mentioned in the earlier replies
Please see the pictures below.
Regards
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That's interesting. I came across this post while researching George Cammerer, rather than the pub. He appears in a family tree by marriage. I found that he was also a landlord in the 1901 census, at the Forester's Arms at 115 Sherlock Street. Can anyone tell me what pub tokens were?

 

[Simon68]

That's interesting. I came across this post while researching George Cammerer, rather than the pub. He appears in a family tree by marriage. I found that he was also a landlord in the 1901 census, at the Forester's Arms at 115 Sherlock Street. Can anyone tell me what pub tokens were?

Pub tokens had a variety of uses, mainly being able to advertise the pub itself.
Sometimes they were used instead of giving change, which meant you had to go back to that pub to eventually spend them, as they usually have a value stated on them but also the pub and sometimes the landlords name.
Other times they were given out upon payment if you wanted to partake in the pubs activities such as the skittle alley, billiards or bowling, as a lot of pubs had bowling greens attached to them.
The fun part is trying to track them down and get them dated, usually by having the landlords name and checking against Trade Directories.

 

[mochaval]

1911 census lists 250 Dartmouth Street as The Rolling Mill Inn licensed tenant given as Edmund Morrall. The houses next on the census are court houses. 225 is the Grand Junction. 255 is the Queens Head listed to Mrs Smith. As I can only find them on the summary book at the moment I can't see if there is a coffee room nearby for either.

Janice

In the 1991 census the Rolling Mill Inn is listed as at 107 Dartmouth Street. I had family members living in a court behind.

 

[pjmburns]

In the 1991 census the Rolling Mill Inn is listed as at 107 Dartmouth Street. I had family members living in a court behind.

Is that the 1891 census? A lot of roads changed numbering between then and 1911 as streets moved from consecutive to odds one side and evens the other.
Mikejee points the renumbering out in post #32