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Pubs Of The Past

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Banjo said:
Using the only two photos I could find of the White Swan Hanley St I combined them together to make this first image. I did this for my Sister-in-Law who, together with her siblings lived there with their parents when they ran it. They were Frederick & Clara Morrall and ran it from 1941 until Frederick unfortunately died in 1947. In those days the brewery wouldn't allow women to hold a licence to run a pub so Mrs Morrall had to leave. My Sister-in-Law tells me that the brewery said her Mom could keep it if she re-married within six months!! The other photo shows her ( in the white wraparound ) with some Family members and a few regulars shortly before she vacated the premises. Although most of the pub is in Cecil St the address was Hanley St.
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Frederick and Clara took over the White Swan on August 18th, 1941 when the pub's average weekly takings were £77. Within two years they had increased this to £120. True, pubs did better trade during the early years of WW2 but it would appear they had the magic touch!
By the way, although trade directories listed the White Swan in Hanley Street, the magistrate's court entered Cecil Street as the pub's address.
Unfortunately, it became a standard practice of the brewers to replace widows in their houses. However, I thought it was known as the "widow's year" so six months seems harsh.
Great pic of the Clara and the regulars - could I please use it on my website?
 
www.midlandspubs.co.uk said:
Frederick and Clara took over the White Swan on August 18th, 1941 when the pub's average weekly takings were £77. Within two years they had increased this to £120. True, pubs did better trade during the early years of WW2 but it would appear they had the magic touch!
By the way, although trade directories listed the White Swan in Hanley Street, the magistrate's court entered Cecil Street as the pub's address.
Unfortunately, it became a standard practice of the brewers to replace widows in their houses. However, I thought it was known as the "widow's year" so six months seems harsh.
Great pic of the Clara and the regulars - could I please use it on my website?
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Because the image belongs to my Sister-in-Law I had to ask her permission for you to use it on your website. She has agreed but, I would ask you to please credit Pauline Rogers.
 
Stitcher said:
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In Perry Barr with this one and it is A nice picture of The Beeches in it's early years, 1950.



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This one is The Apple Tree in Dudley Street and a handwritten line on the back says the year is 1898
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I'm sure the top photo of the Beeches is not in Perry Barr but at the bottom of Hoggs Lane going into Merrits Brook Lane in Northfield.
 
Stitcher said:
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Birmingham Town Hall was completed in 1834 and this one is a picture of it.




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This is a section of the public bar wall showing how the tiled pictures were not hanging on the wall but were actually part of the tiling itself.

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This one shows the serving area in the public bar.
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What happened to these unique tiled scenes of Birmingham ? Were they and other artifacts from the Woodman saved when it was demolished ? If they were, what happened to them ?
 
I remember a tiled picture of the original New Street Station in the Rose Villa in the Jewellery Quarter but when I asked about it nobody knew although one of the staff said she had heard about it.
 
Hello all
I am after a little help to find some pictures of old public houses for our heritage project. The first is called the Stag & Pheasant. It is reported in a local paper in 1895 as being located at Pershore Street/Bromsgrove Street. I have looked on the www.midlandspubs.co.uk but cannot find a picture. The second pub was called the Old Guy Inn Digbeth. Again the I cannot find a picture but the site does say it closed in 1933.
Any information gratefully received.

Steve R
 
nice one of the stag and pheasant mike...i have been after a photo of the old guy for years as it has family connections..this is going back a few years but if memory serves me correctly from a map it was sited within the area of digbeth coach station

lyn
 
thanks mike to be honest as this pub only closed in 1933 i am surprised there are to date no photos of it...always hopeful one will turn up one day

lyn
 
Mike
Post 1573 I have seen this picture before but didn't think it was the same pub as the road name Henage Street? runs down the side but in the papers it is Pershore Street/Bromsgrove Street?

Did the road layout/name change

Steve R
 
Sorry Steve. Yes, that is not the one on the corner of Pershore/Bromsgrove St. The one you want was at 32 Bromsgrove St
 
RobT
I have tried to PM you to confirm who has copyright of this picture of the Stag & Pheasant. Could you try and PM me and let me know please.
Steve R
 
That dodgy/wonky scan is taken from Page 70 in Joseph McKenna's "Central Birmingham Pubs Vol.II" so, being a former librarian at Central Library, it almost certainly originates from the library's archive. I have a slightly better image from the same plate but it is not a great quality photograph anyway.

I assume you are the same chap who asked me about this pub via e-mail which I did answer.

Joseph McKenna states in his book that "Samuel Davis was the first known licensee in 1835." I have not researched this pub yet but I do know that a building stood on that corner long before 1835 as I have a map! However, it was NOT a pub before 1810.

I rather like my version of the Gooch Estate plan of 1875 which shows the pub as part of a larger parcel of land.

I will do a bit of work on my material but will not go overboard as I am busy on other stuff at the moment.

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Stitcher said:
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The Welcome Inn on the corner of Wheeley's
Lane and owen Street, 1964. I am afraid I have little or no information with the majority of these pictures but no doubt Big gee or one of the others will have some details for most of them.
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Remember Owen St and the Welcome. Can't remember the house number but my fathers family,the Souths, house was at the far end on the same side as the Welcome, ( may have been 26 but probably not ) Wally , my uncle, was well known for flying his homing pigeons there( he lived for his homing pigeons and my grandfather well known for his regular route around the various pubs in the area.The door on the left is the 'Outdoor' I think. Remember the ginger beer and the cockle man
 
Tracing Jaep family said:
Hello Stitcher
I am trying to trace a photo of a pub my Great Great Grandmother used to manage. It was the Shakespeare Inn and the address was 37 Parade according to the 1891 census. Her name was Mary Hayes. Hoping you can help
Thanks Jan
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Hi Jan

I think people have been telling the wrong Shakespeare. Yes, there is the one at 31 Summer Row which is still there but I think the one you were after was the Shakespeare at 37 Parade, on the corner of Sandpits. It was a M&B beer house and closed in 1918. Alas I don't have a picture.
 
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View attachment 61774 There are too many posts to trawl through for me to check so forgive me if these have been used recently.
I am hoping Mike or one of the others will be able to verify this one for us. I have it down as The Dolphin, Warwick Rd Acocks Green and around 1927 Mrs Alice Pagett was the licensee.
I was born in Acocks green in 1940 so this was a bit before my time but it does not look anything like the Warwick Road I remember from my childhood.
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Yes this is the old Dolphin pub,looking towards olton,Dolphin lane,just past the inn on the right was named after the pub,it stood roughly where Aldi stores is now,great picture a ghost from the past,and looking so Rural,Ray Evason.
 
Stitcher said:
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View attachment 61774 There are too many posts to trawl through for me to check so forgive me if these have been used recently.
I am hoping Mike or one of the others will be able to verify this one for us. I have it down as The Dolphin, Warwick Rd Acocks Green and around 1927 Mrs Alice Pagett was the licensee.
I was born in Acocks green in 1940 so this was a bit before my time but it does not look anything like the Warwick Road I remember from my childhood.
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ive seen this listed as the dolphin..grandad drank here being a pool farm road resident..warwick road wasnt the width we think back 1900..the right turn after is not there yet
 
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