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Pubs Of The Past

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Astonian

On the Lee Tavern thread you were saying that the 3 pubs the Maggies, the Baldwin & the Maypole that if their outlines were placed together the shape formed would be that of an ocean liner. I had heard this before but it was only the Balwin & the Maggies that were mentioned as they both Art Deco pubs designed by the same architect. The maypole being of a different shape and design altogether.

I had a little look around the web and found a placard that is or was on the wall outside the Maggies that explains it.

Phil
 

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How interesting is that, brilliant, they have built a new Bournville College where Leyland was, people say it looks like a ship, I was wondering if maybe this was intentional, but then dismissed it as me being silly, perhaps I will have a look round for information,
 
Phil said:
Astonian

On the Lee Tavern thread you were saying that the 3 pubs the Maggies, the Baldwin & the Maypole that if their outlines were placed together the shape formed would be that of an ocean liner. I had heard this before but it was only the Balwin & the Maggies that were mentioned as they both Art Deco pubs designed by the same architect. The maypole being of a different shape and design altogether.

I had a little look around the web and found a placard that is or was on the wall outside the Maggies that explains it.

Phil
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That's a picture of the Maypole I haven't seen before.

I see the Smiths Crisps van was making a delivery !
 
While we're on the subject. It used to be said that the biggest pub in Brum was the Swan, Yardley. (The old one, that is).
The second biggest was the Maypole.

Would that be true ?
 
When I was young about 60 years ago there seemed to be a pub on every corner in Aston, with todays lifestyle and dwindling pub clientele it was obvious that a lot would go, if you cannot get customers you have no choice but to close. Eric
 
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The College Arms at the junction of Shaftmoor Lane and Stratford Road Hall Green. 1935.
 
Hi phil
many thanks for your reply on this subject i put on this forum the other day ;
i must adit ; have not heard of it before now and knowing of all the three pubs i mentionend i do know of them and there dezigne
the last encounter i had with the may pole is going back afew years now
but the couple whom ran it at the time cameto dublin with us representing the m,b , brewery to see if we could pic up
any good points on the way they run there pubs but they certainly out shone us over here ;
but getting back to there pub [ the may pole ] i recall it being a big house an long a god loking house at that ; i may add
i beleive one of the pubs had a large chimney wich would have looked like a funnel of a ship which gives you that look as i was told
i beleive maggies is still standing but with a new owner my contact tells me ; do you know any think different
i do know the name of the new owner but for legal reasons the admin ; will not let me say there name ; as you know for reasons
have a great day phil ; astonian
 
Astonian

As far as I am aware The Baldwin & The Maggies are still trading. I notice they have changed the name of the Three Magpies to what everyone called it anyway "The Maggies". As you probably will know the Maypole is long gone now as have many of the larger pubs in Birmingham.

Phil
 
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View attachment 61774 There are too many posts to trawl through for me to check so forgive me if these have been used recently.
I am hoping Mike or one of the others will be able to verify this one for us. I have it down as The Dolphin, Warwick Rd Acocks Green and around 1927 Mrs Alice Pagett was the licensee.
I was born in Acocks green in 1940 so this was a bit before my time but it does not look anything like the Warwick Road I remember from my childhood.
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A later one of the Dolphin, in the same place but a new building looking in the opposite direction twelve years later.
 
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The Navigation Inn, Kings Norton. 1890.
I have posted the same picture on the Kings Norton Thread with a little more information.
 
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That's a cracking pic Stitcher - do you think the two men, judging by their legs - have had a little bit (too much?) to drink perhaps?
 
Hello Shortie, it does look that way.

Hello Big Gee, what a time when all or most pubs had a dart board, and a domino corner.
 
Big Gee, I have never been a drinker so I was also never a regular user of pubs. I use them more now than I ever have but it is for meals do you see. We will do the shopping out of town, call into a garden centre and have a walk round to see what plants or seeds are on sale, then call into a pub for a late lunch then home. The pubs we eat in are usually quiet ones, busy with customers but little noise, not like some of those closer to home. I can see what the attraction was before everything changed, apart from the beer that is.
 
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I don't think this pub has appeared in this thread before - two early images here - but a recent 'streetview' image shows it boarded up.

The Gypsy's Tent in Cherrywood Road
an early pic but I don't know the date


The Gypsy's Tent still there in 1970
 
Stitcher, same as you we hardly ever visit pubs these days, unless it's for a quick lunch or a snack. But I'm sure there are still a few halfway-decent pubs around and about, but like most people these days I don't drink and drive.

Big Gee
 
hi old mowhawk;
yes the gyspsy tent as been on here before i done it about four years ago in my early days
I HAD
A FRIEND WHOM LIVED FIVE DOORS FROM IT AND HE DIED . BUT ALSO JOHN AND MICHELLE BABINTON USED TO RUN IT IN THOSE DAYS
PRIOR TO THAT THEY USED TO RUN THE HOBMOOR PUB BEFORE GOING TO THE GYPSIE TENT AND IT WAS PREVIUOSLY CALLED THE TILTED TENT
 
Hello Big Gee, sorry about the delay with the reply but I have been rather busy of late. I am sure you are correct about some pubs still being o/k.
 
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These two are from todays newspaper.
I may be mistaken but I don't think I have ever heard of The Woolpack in Digbeth before, whereabouts was it?
I know the present Horse & Jockey in Sutton but is it on the same site as the original one?
 
Stitcher
McKenna states that the 1931 Westley map of Birmingham shows an inn with swinging signboard which show an inverted U , he usual sign for a woolpack, this being where the Rea crosses Digbeth. i can see no sign of this on the representation of Westley's map on mapseeker .
Other than that, going back to 1855, cannot find a pub in Digbeth listed as the Woolpack. It may , of course been a beerhouse, which tend to not be listed by name in the directories. However there were two pubs named Woolpack. the first was at 8 Moor st . The OS map c 1889 shows a covered entrance to the right of the pub, whereas the picture show an open passage, though it could have been rebuilt before the map was drawn. The other was named the Black Boy & Woolpack Hotel in St Martins Lane. for a short time in the 1880s it was hte St Martins hotel, but seems to disapear by 1890. thus is on th ecorner of Edgbaston st , but the alley in th ephoto looks a bit narrow fro Edgbaston st. So I reckon themost likely explanation is thta it was a beerhouse and not listed by name , or probably just as likely , that the Mail got the name all wrong
 
O/k Mike, thanks for all that. I was curious because it was one I have never heard about.
 
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The Prince Of Wales, Alcester Road Moseley, towards the end of the nineteenth century.
 
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The Old Bell House on the Bristol road Northfield. Was the site of the Bell Pub?
 
the Old Bell house was once the Old Bell (or Bluebell) Inn at the junction of Bell lane and Bell holloway, just down from the Bell we know. It was built in 1711. By 1839 it had become a private house. and was demolished in the early 1960s. Looking at the map, it must have been the house marked in red

Mike


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