Pubs Of The Past

[Stitcher]

I know I have posted earlier on this thread about Deritend and the following pubs but I have come across a few better photo's so I am putting them on
This is Deritend High street about 1885, which was at that time a part of the Parish of Aston, becoming part of Birmingham well into the 19th century. The church is St. John the Baptist, a daughter church of St. Peter and St. Paul, Aston. Founded in 1381, the church was re-built in 1735.The pub is The Golden Lion Inn which was built around 1600. At the turn of the century it was dismantled and re-erected in Cannon Hill Park where it still stands today. The Church, St. Johns was completely demolished in 1947 after being badly damaged in an air raid in 1940

 

[paul stacey]

I take it the old pub is the black and white building on the hill over looking the lakes in cannon hill park as a child and boy played a lot there with dad when we lived in Edgbaston, never realising it was an old pub,
paul

 

[Stitcher]

They keep saying they are going to do a lot of work renovating the old pub but they do not seem keen to start. I do not know who THEY are exactly but whoever they are it has been put forward several times but the work is never started.
stitcher

 

[Astoness]

great pics phil...the red lion is a new pub to me....

cheers

lyn

 

[john knight]

Right next door to the News theatre Lyn.

 

[Phil]

Five more old monsters in or near to the city that have all gone now, but not forgotten.

Phil

The Sydenham Hotel, Edgbaston St, The Argyle, Suffolk St, The Bell Inn Phillips St, The Bell Inn Bristol St, The Royal George, Park St.

 

[Ingleton]

I thought for a minute they were all pics of Triangle House !!

 

[carolina]

The Barrel, Watery Lane. Birmingham

 

[G G Jean]

Brings back memories Carolina when I was going steady with my first boy friend. {Steady one that is }. Patty will remember. Jean.

 

[Astoness]

the kingstanding pub..

 

[Phil]

Lyn

Here is The Kingstanding in all of it's three lives, I'm afraid that I never used any of them. It was a bit too far off the beaten track for me and I would have never have made it home from way out there.

Phil

 

[oldMohawk]

I had a look on streetview and can see the left hand image appears to be today's pub. I suppose it is better than the monstrosity in the right hand image. However in the middle image - just look at that archway, almost good enough for a palace. I look at the chimneys and wonder if there were nice open fires in the winter.

 

[Stitcher]

The Bell Hotel, No. 60 Lozells Road about 1900. Because of it's unusually large size, The Bell was able to have a billiards room, stage smoking concerts, (whatever they were) and accomodate The Lozells Debating Society meetings every Sunday evening.

 

[Ray Barrett]

What a treat, a proper pub.They also advertise pool,I thought that was an American game,something else they must have pinched.

 

[Stitcher]

Hello Ray, by all accounts they played pool and another game called pyramids, and both of these games were the forunners to snooker.

 

[Stitcher]

This is/was The Kings Head in Allison Street Digbeth in 1906. It was at one time a Home Brewed Beer pub.

 

[mikejee]

Apparently pool is a general term covering a number of variants (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_(cue_sports) ). According to this the original american game was played without pockets. i note that the proper term for pool is "pocket billiards" , though I had always thought of that as meaning something a little different!

 

[Ingleton]

Pool ? - maybe they had a lido at the back, like The Greswolde did in Solihull years ago :friendly_wink:

 

[Stitcher]

Thanks again Mike.

 

[Astoness]

thats a great pic of the bell hotel...a new one to me..mike i wonder if you could pinpoint number 60 lozells road on a map please..would love to know exactly where the bell was situated..

thanks mike...

 

[paul stacey]

Like the Bell photo stitcher, the guy on the right looks like a 19th Century spiv.
paul

 

[mikejee]

Lyn
Map below, Bell Inn in red. It now seems to be Khan Carpets. Certainly the upper windows look very similar to the picture, though am not sure if they are original or a copy

 

[mikejee]

One another point George Albert Asbury is listed as being there from 1897 tillbetween 1900 & 1903

 

[Astoness]

thanks mike...the reason i asked it because when i was down berners st a few weeks back i took a walk along the lozells road with me camera and i noticed that there are still quite a few of the original buildings left...

thank you mike..

lyn

 

[Stitcher]

Hello Paul, yes I agree with that. I often wonder what they talked about in those days, but whatever the subject I bet it was better than listening to the rubbish we hear today with no Ts. and TH sounding like F. Innit.

 

[Stitcher]

Regarding post 156, I came across this in the newspaper this morning

 

[Astoness]

i have always thought that it was a great pity that this pub was ever moved in the first place..tucking it away in a park was not a good move in my opinion..maybe if it hadnt have been it would have followed in the success of the old crown digbeth...

lyn

 

[Phil]

Stitcher

We have heard all this before, this is what was said when the scaffolding was put up, which in my opinion is more to do with safety of the public than stopping the building from collapsing.

Besides going on Birmingham Councils record of hiring scaffolding they have probably paid more than the £50,000 that is needed to repair the building in scaffolding hire since the problem was first discovered.

Phil

 

[Astoness]

phil i have actually been in the pub..must have been in the early 70s but at this rate no one will get the chance again unless the council get a move on

lyn

 

[Stitcher]

I agree totally with you Phil but I did not say that initially because people brand you as argumentative or something similar. I would never put any faith in promises from politicians these days.