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Pub on corner of Alma Street & Inkerman Street Deeds - Dew Drop Inn?

Alfred Birds

proper brummie kid
Hi all, just a quick one to say a mate came across the deeds from mid 1920s to 30s of a pub on the corner of Alma Street & Inkerman Street and he was intrigued by any information on it. It was from a house clearance a few years back and he can't find any info.

Bit of a long shot. I did do a search for the Dew Drop Aston but found nothing.
 
Hi all, just a quick one to say a mate came across the deeds from mid 1920s to 30s of a pub on the corner of Alma Street & Inkerman Street and he was intrigued by any information on it. It was from a house clearance a few years back and he can't find any info.

Bit of a long shot. I did do a search for the Dew Drop Aston but found nothing.
In 1921 and 1932 it was just listed as a beer retailer.
 

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Looking at what he sent me it's a lease dated 18th Oct 1926 by Ansells for Mrs M. Hurley and yes I can see in the lease it's an outdoor beerhouse and expires 1933. Annual rent of £26. Complete with one electric lamp and wiring thereto. Signed by the Director (looks like A.I. Ansell?) and sectretary in pencil with a red Ansells wax seal.
 
Looking at what he sent me it's a lease dated 18th Oct 1926 by Ansells for Mrs M. Hurley and yes I can see in the lease it's an outdoor beerhouse and expires 1933. Annual rent of £26. Complete with one electric lamp and wiring thereto. Signed by the Director (looks like A.I. Ansell?) and sectretary in pencil with a red Ansells wax seal.


thats great alfred...good to have a photo to go with the deeds..from memory i think there could be one more photo of the dew drop i will search my files and post it if i find it..the photo i posted show alma st to the right and on the right where the man and van is you can just make out alma st school which is where i went

lyn
 
Looking at what he sent me it's a lease dated 18th Oct 1926 by Ansells for Mrs M. Hurley and yes I can see in the lease it's an outdoor beerhouse and expires 1933. Annual rent of £26. Complete with one electric lamp and wiring thereto. Signed by the Director (looks like A.I. Ansell?) and sectretary in pencil with a red Ansells wax seal.
Was it M. Hurley or M. Gurley?
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The signatory could have been A E Ansell. (Albert Edward). He was a grandson of Joseph Ansell (the founder of Ansells brewery). I don't know if Albert was involved in the brewery but he was certainly alive at that time so it is quite possible.
 

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I have sorted out what information I can find:

Directories are in black type and the date is publication date and not survey date, so possibly refer to a year earlier. Dates from newspapers, which would be correct are in red

The establishment was originally a beerhouse, and continually tried to obtain a spirit licence, but, mainly due to opposition from the Alma Inn, applications were refused. But, as Lyn said, it later seems to have just been an off licence. This would I think have been from at least 1940, as after that time beerhouses were named in directories and the name Dew drop is never listed.

The first mention I can find of the pub is when Ellen Kent applied on 21.8.1857 for a licence to sell alcohol at the Dew Drop Inn. It is not clear whether this was the first application for a licence there , or whether Ellen was given one. However Thomas Kent was the licensee there in 1865, when he unsuccessfully applied for a spirits licence. He died in may 1866 and in 1868 the licence was awarded to John Keogan (listed in newspaper as John Cogan in august 1868) His beerhouse licence was renewed (reported as John Krogem) in august 1869. Frederick wood was licensee from at least August 1870 when he unsuccessfully applied for a spirit licence. In January 1876 he brought charges against a brewer who lived opposite for assault on himself and his wife. But a directory dated 1876 lists the landlord as James Brown, and James continues there till 1896. In October 1882 an inquest was held there on Robert Bishton from Inkerman St, who committed suicide. In 1897 Mrs Mary Bevan is listed as landlady, and in April and September 1898 Joseph Collins is accused of selling alcohol to a drunken person, but is aquitted, and continues there till 1904. A floral society was formed in August 1897. It is not clear who was in charge then, but it sounds a bit more like a woman’s idea.
In 1905 George H Bennett was landlord, and in September 1907 Edward Colling Cole, described as formerly the manager of the pub, was accused of walking off with £4.11.6 pence from the Dew Drop Sick & dividend society, but was sympathetically treated on condition that he returned the funds, as he explained that his wife had walke doff with the takings and society money while he was at the brewery resigning his post



Full directory listings are below:



1867 Thomas Kent

1868 John Keogan

1872-1873 Frederick wood

1876 – 1896 James Brown

1897 Mrs Mary Bevan

1899 -1904 Joseph Collins

1905 George H.Bennett

1908 James Berry

1910-1923 Joseph Armstrong

1932 -1933 Mrs Minnie Amelia Gurley

1936-1943 Arthur Joseph Blake

1944-1947 Mrs Susannah Elizabeth Davies

1949-1955 Frank Arch

1956 Mrs Elsie L.Watkins

1957-1958 Mrs E.R.Chandler

1961 No. 96 not listed
 
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Incredible detail and thanks. What a fascinating place this must have been. I think perhaps Ben's intrigue had been tweaked as the property he cleared (which he realised was a massive time consuming job for mostly junk), had some unusual items shall we say.. judging by some of what was hidden away the deceased was either a bank robber or extremely paranoid of being robbed himself and I am sure you can imagine what items I could be describing. I can't divulge any more than that publicly for obvious reasons. Not sure how this person came into ownership of the lease, we'll never know now.
 
Incredible detail and thanks. What a fascinating place this must have been. I think perhaps Ben's intrigue had been tweaked as the property he cleared (which he realised was a massive time consuming job for mostly junk), had some unusual items shall we say.. judging by some of what was hidden away the deceased was either a bank robber or extremely paranoid of being robbed himself and I am sure you can imagine what items I could be describing. I can't divulge any more than that publicly for obvious reasons. Not sure how this person came into ownership of the lease, we'll never know now.


could be a relative hanging onto a bit of family history...this is not the first time a member has come across interesting things...a few years ago we helped a member find living rellies of some historical things he found when he moved into his house and was doing some work...we all got together to track down a rellie and the documents was returned to the family..great story with a great ending made even more so because the documents found were so personal and to do with WW1 and needed to be with the rightful family...maybe you and ben would like to read this thread which ends up with a link to central news who covered the story...start reading from post 1..click on thread link below

lyn

 
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