A few more unseen photos on this link. https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/bu...ounder-unearths-8964211#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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Phyllis Nicklin Photos
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thanks for the above link viv...just been pouring over the supplement out today in which 30 images are printed...so far only 11 are online to view on vivs above link hopefully they will put the other 19 on...part 2 next week will reveal another 30 photos and as far as i can make out for now that is all that the paper will be printing ... out of the 1100 images that were discovered in an old filing cabinet at the unviversity..we have for some time now had 450 online so there are many more to reveal...the editor has given phyllis a wonderful write up no more than she deserves...so far no photos of our phyllis has been found and the paper is calling out for any rellies of hers to come forward i for one would love to see a photo of this remarkable lady..
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Hi Lyn. Hope a relation of Phyllis's comes forward. Was Nicklin her maiden name?
Had a look at the photos via the App and the full Supplement is on there. Will post what I can from there. Some are small images so not sure how well they will come up on screen. Here goes. Viv.
The Ship Hotel, Bordesley Camp Hill Sandy Lane (right) 5 Aug 1960
Soho Hill 14 May 1963
Had a look at the photos via the App and the full Supplement is on there. Will post what I can from there. Some are small images so not sure how well they will come up on screen. Here goes. Viv.
The Ship Hotel, Bordesley Camp Hill Sandy Lane (right) 5 Aug 1960
Soho Hill 14 May 1963
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morning viv your photos are coming out better than if i tried to scan them from the newspaper..did a bit of research the other week and so far as i can tell
1911
charles horace nicklin 31
amelia jane nicklin 31..maiden name wright
phyllis amelia nicklin aged 1
no of childrend born 1 no still alive 1
charles and amelia jane marr in 1907..
charles died in 1920 birm
i have not gone into it too much as yet but as far as i can make out there were no other children after phyllis born to charles and amelia so if that is the case its looking like phyllis could have been an only child in which case makes tracking down rellies as so far as i can see phyllis did not marry but that of course does not mean to say she did not have any children...having said that there are far better researchers on here than i am so any info found would help the cause...i think i have just found my next project viv lol
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1911
charles horace nicklin 31
amelia jane nicklin 31..maiden name wright
phyllis amelia nicklin aged 1
no of childrend born 1 no still alive 1
charles and amelia jane marr in 1907..
charles died in 1920 birm
i have not gone into it too much as yet but as far as i can make out there were no other children after phyllis born to charles and amelia so if that is the case its looking like phyllis could have been an only child in which case makes tracking down rellies as so far as i can see phyllis did not marry but that of course does not mean to say she did not have any children...having said that there are far better researchers on here than i am so any info found would help the cause...i think i have just found my next project viv lol
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Great research Lyn. I've also come across this too which contains a bit more about Phyllis. Sad that she died just a few months after her mother. Viv.
https://brumpic.com/2015/03/30/nicklinunseen/
https://brumpic.com/2015/03/30/nicklinunseen/
A couple more pages. V.
And the second Supplement is next week. V.
Yes Lyn. Do hope there's a relation somewhere who remembers Phyllis. Be great if that someone came forward via BHF! Viv.
No, no selfies Lyn! Imagine Phyllis was quite a reserved person too. Good idea to speak to Uni Lyn. There must be staff photos in their archives somewhere.
Finally, will post the first page of the Supplement, but it might not be too clear. V.
Finally, will post the first page of the Supplement, but it might not be too clear. V.
It would Lyn. I'd be beside myself if I'd been caught on camera!
If anyone is visiting BMAG, this is the interactive touchable thingy I mentioned in an earlier post. V
https://www.birminghammuseums.org.u...n-unseen-images-on-the-interactive-touchtable
If anyone is visiting BMAG, this is the interactive touchable thingy I mentioned in an earlier post. V
https://www.birminghammuseums.org.u...n-unseen-images-on-the-interactive-touchtable
Being inspired by Lyn's (Astoness) research into Phyllis in the earlier posts I've had a browse of publications to see if I could find out more about Phyllis as a person. A book called "Complex Locations: Women's Geographical Work in the UK, 1859 - 1970" by Avril Maddrell includes some details. Here's the section detailing Phyllis's work. She obviously did much important work within the Geographical Association as well as in her university role.
She's described as a "great rock in the world of geographical education" and was kind and efficient. I guessed she was probably a pretty efficient person judging by the details she wrote on her slides.
She was also an author. One publication was "The Early Historical Geography of the Forest of Arden" . Writing about the historical geography of an area must have been a fascinating subject.
Her own academic achievements were a first class BA Hons Degree in Geography (1930), M.A. (1931) and Diploma in Teaching (1932). She's described as being a popular speaker, so doubtless her lectures were very interesting too.
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She's described as a "great rock in the world of geographical education" and was kind and efficient. I guessed she was probably a pretty efficient person judging by the details she wrote on her slides.
She was also an author. One publication was "The Early Historical Geography of the Forest of Arden" . Writing about the historical geography of an area must have been a fascinating subject.
Her own academic achievements were a first class BA Hons Degree in Geography (1930), M.A. (1931) and Diploma in Teaching (1932). She's described as being a popular speaker, so doubtless her lectures were very interesting too.
Viv.
For info Lyn, the extract from the book (written in the 1970s) in my previous post refers to Phyllis as 'Miss Nicklin' so I think you'd be right about her not having married. Viv.
thanks for all that extra info viv...very interesting...must be honest here and say that geography was my pet hate at school...showed no interest in it at all much prefered history but with a teacher such as phyllis nicklin i may well have had my head turned lol...
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Hi Mike. From looking around I think Phyllis wrote for the Transactions of the Birmingham and Midland Archaeological Society. The Forest of Arden piece was in Transactions of the B & M AS LVI pgs 71 - 6 in 1932. It's referenced in many publications. I found the references on Google books below. I think the 'Transactions' must be a composite publication of different contributors.
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Lyn my pet hate was HISTORY (she says shamefully). I loved Geography. But like you say, it's down to the teaching of it. Couldn't abide the history teacher!
Phyllis was teaching geography in WW2. Here's an interesting clip which might explain why she was teaching at Nottingham Uni. It's from 'Map Girls' by Avril Maddrell.
improved copy posted in next post.Viv.
Posting better copy of clip again. V.
Mike I wasn't sure what format it was in. Wasn't clear from an initial Google search. I'm presuming it's a contribution to the Transactions. Never heard of them or seen them before. I think from memory of searching the net that there were debates about whatever she proposed in the piece.
So we can presume that Phyllis was an historical geographer (if that's a proper title!). In that sense I more fully appreciate her motivation for recording her images of the changing city in the 50s and 60s. Viv.
So we can presume that Phyllis was an historical geographer (if that's a proper title!). In that sense I more fully appreciate her motivation for recording her images of the changing city in the 50s and 60s. Viv.
Phyllis Nicklin's brother Harold appears to have married a Marjorie F D Fry in Birmingham in 1948. Sadly he is recorded as having died in Rhuddlan, Clwyd, Wales in 1985. I can find no evidence of any children or of whether his wife survived him or might still be alive, she would be 88 years old by now if she is.
I am delighted to see that Miss Nicklin is at last being recognised for the magnificent body of photographic work which she left us. The photographs which are already in the public domain would benefit from being described and interpreted further, whilst the people who remember the places they show are still alive. It is a delightfully varied collection, some of my personal favourites being the industrial and canal subjects. I can't wait to see what is in the other 600 or so.
I am delighted to see that Miss Nicklin is at last being recognised for the magnificent body of photographic work which she left us. The photographs which are already in the public domain would benefit from being described and interpreted further, whilst the people who remember the places they show are still alive. It is a delightfully varied collection, some of my personal favourites being the industrial and canal subjects. I can't wait to see what is in the other 600 or so.
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Viv and Lyn - many thanks for your research and for posting extracts from the supplement: all fascinating. I see that the Brumpic commentary says a "major exhibition" of Phyllis's work will be staged in the Autumn. That will be the perfect time to publish a book of her splendid pictures...
Viv
Have now read the article by Phyllis, and it is a discussion from historical sources, such as the Domesday book and manorial records, together with the distribution of half timbered houses, into how the population was distributed in the area. From this she comments on whether the boundary should be the River Avon or a boundary based on the geology. Abit dry, but has some interesting map plots of data
Have now read the article by Phyllis, and it is a discussion from historical sources, such as the Domesday book and manorial records, together with the distribution of half timbered houses, into how the population was distributed in the area. From this she comments on whether the boundary should be the River Avon or a boundary based on the geology. Abit dry, but has some interesting map plots of data
hello viewfinder i could not agree with you more..you never know a book or series of books could be on the cards...
all the best
lyn
Toby - pity about the prospect of relations not still around.
Mike - thanks for the feedback. I did wonder why an archaeological organisation had printed her work. I feel sure (but afraid no evidence) that she must have contributed written work to the Midlands Geographical Association too. Shall keep an eye open.
Viewfinder - yes an exhibition is planned. From what I can gather there's a 12 month plan involving her work. But as yet have no clues about what's involved other than the Autumn event.
Lyn - wholeheartedly agree too. Going back to your point about tracing a photo of her or biographical info, I did wonder if Nottingham Uni would have anything to offer too. If she was in a reserved occupation at Nottingham Uni in WW2 there must be some sort of record I would think.
Been lovely looking into her life and work. Thanks all. Viv.
Mike - thanks for the feedback. I did wonder why an archaeological organisation had printed her work. I feel sure (but afraid no evidence) that she must have contributed written work to the Midlands Geographical Association too. Shall keep an eye open.
Viewfinder - yes an exhibition is planned. From what I can gather there's a 12 month plan involving her work. But as yet have no clues about what's involved other than the Autumn event.
Lyn - wholeheartedly agree too. Going back to your point about tracing a photo of her or biographical info, I did wonder if Nottingham Uni would have anything to offer too. If she was in a reserved occupation at Nottingham Uni in WW2 there must be some sort of record I would think.
Been lovely looking into her life and work. Thanks all. Viv.
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