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Parker

Frank Parker

Frank Parker

https://frankparker.website
My name is Francis Roy Parker (known as Frank!), born 1966, Birmingham. I am the youngest of 6 children and my Sisters and Brother are Yvonne Marie Parker, Catherine Victoria Parker (known as Cathy!), Janet Frances Parker, Julie Ann Parker and William Parker (known as Bill!). We all lived in Dollman street, Vaxhall, Nechells, Birmingham when I was born!

My Dads name is Frank William Parker, born 1928, Wolverhampton. His Dad name was William and Moms name was Katherine (I think!? We don't really talk that much about them!). Dad had 2 Brothers (sadly now deceased!) named William (known as Bill!) and Victor (known as Vic!) and 1 Sister Nora (also deceased!). They all lived in the Bushbury/Lower Hill area of Wolverhampton. Dad as lived in Birmingham since the 1960's.

My Moms name is Beatrice Mary Parker (known as Mary!), maiden name was Alcott, born 1936, Wolverhampton. Her Moms name was Beatrice and Dads name was Oliver (I think?!). There is an history of living on canal boats on my Moms side. Mom had 2 Sisters, Linda (deceased!) and Lorraine and 2 Brothers, David and Paul. Mom as lived in Birmingham most of her life.

If you think you might be related, know anyone who might be related or have any information that may help me trace my relatives (especially Great Grandparents and older as I don't know anything about them!) I would love to hear from you.

Thank you in advance. :peace:
 
Hi ya,

If you are interested in your family history the first thing I would suggest is talk to your parents. Confirm all the details that they can give you about the names of their parents, when their parents were born, and married etc.

Once you have dates try searching on a resource such as FreeBMD (though they are only now indexing the 1920s). This will give you the year, quarter and the GRO reference for the birth/marriage etc.

With this information you can order the certificate from the GRO.

Remember, you should try to confirm everything rather than just accepting the oral version someone gives you. Peoples memories become faded over time.

Have a look here - it contains lots of helpful advice.

Doug
 
Thanks for that Doug.

I have discussed bits of my family history with my parents over time but I always forget to write it down! I will ask them again and click on the links you gave me.

Nice one!
 
Hi Francis & Welcome

I had a good look at this last night and must admit was struggling.
I first looked for the birth of Frank William who you say was born Wolverhampton, there was only one Frank W born 1928 and that was in Walsal
Frank W Parker mmn Smith 2nd qtr 1928 Walsal 6b 1122

There was a Frank, no middle name, born in the same qtr

Frank Parker mmn Percival 2nd qtr 1928 Wolverhampton 6b 921

mmn = mothers maiden name

I would normaly have then looked for the marriage of Parker/Smith or Percival but that can take time and to be honest i would prefer to just look for the one.

Can i suggest you read this to give you an understanding of how this works, when you have looked at this, if you can, come back on here and post any additional info you can find

https://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12911

Look forward to your reply and helping you find out about your family


bren

 
Thanks Bren and please call me Frank! LOL. I could of got it wrong and possibly there is no William in his middle name! The name Percival rings a bell as I am sure I have heard Dad talk about them. To confuse things more my Mom and Dad are not married as such and she is Parker because her Step - Dad was a Parker (by some relation?) so she took the name. Both my Dad and Mom were married though before and Mom's name was Townsend then after originally being Alcott!

Sorry if this all sounds confusing but it is to me to! Family history is something that as not really been talked about for some reason. I will try and find out what I can and thank you for your help, it is gratefully appreciated. :)
 
Hi Frank

Note the spelling on this birth --

Beatrice M Allcott mmn Townsend 1st qtr 1936 Wolverhampton Vol6b Page748

So let me get this straight, your mom was born Allcott, married and became Townsend, her mothers maiden name appears to be Townsend, this could get very confussing :D


bren

 
Hi Frank

Here's the marriage of --

Oliver Allcott/ Beatrice V Townsend 2nd qtr 1935 Wolverhampton 6b 1470


bren
 
Cheers Bren! It is VERY confusing because I wasn't aware my Nan's maiden name was Townsend!! :explode: I hope you like challenges?! :D
 
Hi Frank

This looks like your grandmothers birth and her mothers maiden name --

Beatrice V Townsend mmn Wooley 1st qtr 1916 Birmingham 6d 503

bren
 
Di.Poppitt said:
Oh Frank, our Bren loves a challenge. ;)
Click to expand...

Frank, don't you worry there are a few on here that like a challenge thank goodness, they will be looking in and adding their knowledge to the search and that includes the author of the above ;)


bren
 
Hi Frank

There are not many families with the name Allcott so i think this one could be your Oliver. You will notice there is no mmn, they only started recording this from June 1911, the period from this date back to the 1901 Census can get difficult to research because of this.

Oliver G Allcott 3rd qtr 1910 Birmingham 6d 35

Now then, if you was to send for the marriage certificate for Oliver and Beatrice it will have the ages of both of them on there and this will help to confirm if the birth details i have given you are correct. The other information on there will tell the date of the marriage and where, address of both, occupation, fathers full name and his occupation, if you read that link i gave you, you will know that we can then check the latter on the birth cert's if and when you send for those


bren
 
Thanks Bren. :) Sorry for sounding thick lol but where do I ask for a copy of certificates and how much do they cost? :rolleyes:
 
Hi Frank

Don't be a plonker now, your not thick just what we call a "Newbie", that's how we all started but you will find at first that it is a steep learning curve, best thing i can tell you is, don't be afraid to ask anything on here, you will always get an answer from the friendliest bunch on the net, nuts but harmless :D. Second bit of advice when your just starting is to make sure you make a note of everything, i think we all wish we had been told that one.

Certificates cost £7:00 each, you can send for them from the local office concerned either by post or, more so now, online --

This one covers all England & Wales, you have to register but it remembers your details for when you return for further orders, make a note of your Log In details

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/register.asp


For Birmingham follow this link, all the information is there for post, fax or online orders

https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=71551&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=5025

For Wolverhampton go here --

https://www.bmd-certificates.co.uk/registry/wolverhampton.html


bren :peace:
 
If Franks mother was a Percival, here is the birth of William

William Parker MMN Percival December quarter 1924 Wolverhampton 6B 936

Using the same criteria

William Parker married Catherine Percival March quarter 1924 Wolverhampton ref 6B 853
 
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Thanks Di, i was just looking for those, got down to 1925 when your Notification came through.
Here are the other births --

Victor R Parker mmn Percival 4th qtr 1931 Wolverhampton 6b 734
Nora Parker mmn Percival 2nd qtr 1936 Wolverhampton 6b 764

bren
 
Hi Frank

You didn't mention this one --

Oliver Allcott mmn Townsend 4th qtr 1939 Wolverhampton 6b 1300

bren
 
Hi Frank

I cannot find those names you have given for your mothers siblings in Allcott/Alcott births, would you know if they have another surname.
I did find a death of
Oliver Allcott 24yrs 1st qtr 1940 Wolverhampton 6b 1495

I checked the births for 1915/16/17 and there was no Oliver so i suspect the age on this one could be wrong and it should be 30yrs old, not unusual. I then looked to see if Beatrice V had remarried and found nothing after checking both Allcott and Townsend registers, i am wondering if for some reason she reverted to using her maiden name of Townsend including your mom

Both my Dad and Mom were married though before and Mom's name was Townsend then after originally being Alcott!

I have now searched the marriage records again for your moms marriage, i didn't find one to a Townsend but i did find this

Beatrice M Allcott/Thomas A Devlin 4th qtr 1956 Birmingham 9c 629

As i said before, i suspect her mother reverted to using her maiden name and did the same for your mom and probably Oliver but when your mom got married she had to use the name on her birth certificate, Allcott.
Bit late now will look some more later today

bren
 
Hi Bren sorry for all the confusion! I haven't been able to see Mom and Dad yet to verify things!

Beatrice M Allcott/Thomas A Devlin 4th qtr 1956 Birmingham 9c 629

I do remember Mom mentioning the name Devlin so I think that is correct?!
I also remember Mom mentioning the name Mayo as well somewhere?? Sorry, I am as confused as you are! I will try to find out as much as I can for you.

Take care.
 
Hi Bren, hope you are doing well?

Regarding : I then looked to see if Beatrice V had remarried and found nothing

I forgot to mention that Nan did remarry after Oliver G died. She married Theodore Parker, at least I think he was a Parker? This is where the name Mayo comes confused! Theo was related to the Parker's somehow and used the name Parker but he might of been using Mayo when he got married?

Hopefully I will see my Mom at my Sisters today so I shall find out more!

Take care. :)
 
Hi Frank

Had a look through Mayo marriages last night but couldn't find anything. The list of surnames to look through is getting longer as they seem to swap quite freely through family names but we will perservere :D if there is something there we will find it


bren
 
Hi Bren, after seeing Mom today, and making lot's of notes, it all gets VERY confusing indeed! :D I will post what I know so far soon.
 
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Right Bren brace yourself lol! :D

Nan (Beatrice Violet):

Married Oliver G Alcott date unknown. Oliver G died in 1940 of TB and double pneumonia . He is buried in Wolverhampton. He had a Sister Violet that was married to Jack, last name unknown, and a Brother Fred who may of been married to Sarah or Sarah was Olivers Sister. Mom is not sure, she only knew her as an Aunt. Beatrice V died in 1977. She is buried in Witton cemetary, Aston. She had a Sister called Laura and an elder Brother Albert. Albert married Annie, last name unknown. Oliver and Beatrice had 2 children - My Mom and Oliver. He was born in 1940 and was sent to live with his Aunt Laura (Nan's Sister) and her husband Fred Allen in the Yardley area/Robin Hood island - shortly after Oliver Snr died. Mom as never seen him since and I would especially like to find out about him. My Nan remarried, year unknown, Theodore. Thodore is a relative of my Dad's but not direct I think because Dad always said he wasn't a true Parker. As far as I know he used the name but may of been a Mayo originally. They had 4 children - David Born 1948, Linda Born 1951, died 2000, Paul Born 1953 and Lorraine born 1960. They all had Parker on their birth certificates. My Nan, David and Paul all served in the Army. Paul went to prison for 3 years, I think, for desertion.

Mom (Beatrice Mary):

Married Thomas Devlin (originally from Ireland) possibly in 1956. They had 2 children - Pamela Born 1955, Died 1967. Pam was fostered out to a couple living in Colesley (near Wolverhampton) after she was born. She died in 1967, cause - drowned in swimming pool. Yvonne as the name, I think, Devlin on her birth certificate but was known as Parker after Mom met my Dad. Mom as never been divorced from Thomas. She met my Dad around 1957 I think. They had 6 kids - Catherine, Janet, Martin who was Born in 1962 and died in 1962, cause - hole in the heart, Buried unknown, Julie, William and myself.

Grandad (William):

Died in year unknown, buried Wolverhampton. May of had a Brother called Ike, Born unknown, Died unknown. His Dad I only know as "Shocker" Born unknown, Died unknown.There is an history of Scottish on their side. William married Catherine Percival, date unknown. Catherine Born unknown, Died unknown, buried in Wolverhampton. There is an history of Irish on her side. William and Catherine had 5 children - William Born 1924, Died 2005, buried in Wolverhampton, Married Mary year unknown, no kids. My Dad. Victor Born 1931, Died 2005, buried Wolverhampton, married June, year unknown, 9 kids. Nora Born 1936, Died 2006, buried Wolverhampton, Married twice, one unknown and to Mick, year unknown, no kids. Sam Born unknown, Died Unknown (possibly at a young age), buried Wolverhampton I think and Katheline Born unknown, Died unknown (possibly at a young age), buried Wolverhampton I think.

Dad (Frank):

Married Shiela, last name unknown, year unknown, divorced, I think, year unknown. They had 1 Son, Paul Born unknown, Died Unknown, cause - motorbike accident. Met my Mom (see above). There is, I have been told, a famous Cockney Music Hall performer named Nelly Wallace on Dad's side, from the 1800's. I am not sure how she is related. Oh yeah and Dad had spent a lot of time at her Majesties pleasure from when he was about 13, I think up untill 1966.

So there you go for now Bren, as I say VERY confusing on Mom's side as there are so many different last names floating about! Please not the dates above may be out either side by a year or two. I am awaiting Dad to confirm things on his side when I see him again. I will post some more later regarding other relatives like Cousins etc but for now I hope that is enough to keep you busy! ;)

Thank you again, you are a star sir!
 
Hi Frank

How's your writers cramp :D

Well done, you have managed to get a lot of information there, if you read back through what has already been posted i think you will find some names and dates of events have already been given to you.
As you will understand it will take some time to pick our way through this lot, for the moment i would suggest you get yourself a large sheet of paper and draw up a rough family tree and try and put the info you have and the dates etc we have given you on there.
I notice you mention you would like to find out what happened to your moms brother Oliver, born 4th qtr 1939, he could still be alive so i will see what i can find, we might get lucky


bren
 
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