-
Welcome to this forum . We are a worldwide group with a common interest in Birmingham and its history. While here, please follow a few simple rules. We ask that you respect other members, thank those who have helped you and please keep your contributions on-topic with the thread.
We do hope you enjoy your visit. BHF Admin Team
Newhall Street
- Thread starter Dave M
- Start date
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Dave M
A few of old photos of Newhall Street. Two showing the Science Museum at different times and stages. I often visited myself and yes I do miss it and have never yet visited the Think Tank on principal. The third shows the corner of Great Charles Street and I think its Richmond House?
Phil
A few of old photos of Newhall Street. Two showing the Science Museum at different times and stages. I often visited myself and yes I do miss it and have never yet visited the Think Tank on principal. The third shows the corner of Great Charles Street and I think its Richmond House?
Phil
Attachments
Hi Phil,
The building on the corner of Great Charles Street is Lancaster House.
It used to be an Income Tax Office, but I've no idea what's there now.
Richmond House is on the other side of Newhall Street taking up a large part of the block, just above Beaufort House on the corner of Lionel Street. I worked at the Westminster Bank at Beaufort House for 4 years
from 1960 to 1964. I was a regular visitor to the Science museum
at lunch times and it was absolutely magnificent. The curator in those
days was a Mr Norman W. Bertenshaw.
Kind regards
Dave
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Hi Dave
Thanks for putting me right, as soon as you mentioned The Inland Revenue I knew you were right. I must have had some dealings there years back and the name must have stuck in my mind.
Did they move around the corner in Edmund St to Second City House at some time?
Phil
Thanks for putting me right, as soon as you mentioned The Inland Revenue I knew you were right. I must have had some dealings there years back and the name must have stuck in my mind.
Did they move around the corner in Edmund St to Second City House at some time?
Phil
ASTONITE
master brummie
Does anyone recall the exact date that Elkingtons closed down? My dad was a tool-maker there, he started as an apprentice in 1929, and worked there until it closed, I think it may have been sometime in the mid fifties, they moved to Bloxwich I think. The reason I would like to know is that on the last day, the Birmingham mail took photographs, and I would dearly like to see them. My friend and myself spent many a happy hour there as children, it was a wondrous place,what a pity they closed it!
Hi Phil,
I've no idea when they moved, or if they were absorbed into the
main office in Union Street as technology improved and presumably
less space was required with the advent of computers.
I can't place Second City House in Edmund Street, the only one
that comes to mind is/was? in Holloway Head.
Kind regards
Dave
Hi Pam,
That's a coincidence, I remember a very small lady with rosy cheeks
who used to come to the Bank and sweep around in the evening.
The only access to the bank was throuigh the main door, so I wouldn't
have known if she was in charge of the rest of the building. I still
remember her after 50 years, as she was such a nice old lady, - was
her name Mrs Crabtree, or something like that?
Kind regards
Dave
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Sorry Dave 89
I was getting mixed up again with the other blood suckers the Customs & Excise V.A.T. offices at Second City House in Edmund Street. I think they have moved now and the owners of the building are using a different name, I suppose to disassociate themselves.
Phil
I was getting mixed up again with the other blood suckers the Customs & Excise V.A.T. offices at Second City House in Edmund Street. I think they have moved now and the owners of the building are using a different name, I suppose to disassociate themselves.
Phil
Second City House was built next to Rutland House[currently having a major facelift] when I was Caretaker there in the 70s and into the 80s. At one stage I was also looking after Second City House when it housed HM Customs & Excise and 1 Cornwall Street prior to it's redevelopment.
Second City House underwent a major refurbishment and an extension was built through to Edmund Street creating a larger building and two levels of car parking.
Second City House underwent a major refurbishment and an extension was built through to Edmund Street creating a larger building and two levels of car parking.
Hi Pam,
That name does sound familiar, - I guess he must have come into the bank many times if there were problems with the services etc. Any idea when he was there, - I was there from 1960 - 1964.
Kind regards
Dave
L
ladywood
Guest
My father worked at Elkingtons as a hot metal stamper for just over 20 years.
They moved, he said to Walsall, [it might have been Bloxwich].
After 20 years there, he was made redundant. He was over 50.
No pension, no watch, not even a cutlery set of which he must have stamped out thousands.
They made a silver plated tank for Field Marshall Montgomery, but Dad they made redundant.
The Science Museum [the old Elkington factory, was for me a wonderful place especially on a Sunday afternoon, when Birmingham went to sleep.
The hissing beam engine. The Hotchkiss Machine gun [on the stairs]. The Railton Special and a Birmingham tram.
They had a very simple computer that played Fox and Hounds.
My constant companion 'Christopher D' and I found a way to beat it.
All this interest and excitement was free to two ordinary young boys.
Now to see all this you have to pay.
I remember when Maggie Thatcher thought maybe you should pay to go into the National Gallery, advertisements in the national press using the imprimatur of brilliant artists, opposed it. i.e. Thatcher was up against Monet, Da Vinci, Turner, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Picasso, et al.
Of course she lost.
I can't see our grandchildren using our new museum in the same way as we used the museum in Newhall Street.
ladywood
ASTONITE
master brummie
Ladywood, I agree entirely with your sentiments, it was a great place for us kids to spend an afternoon, I'm still no further with knowing when Elkingtons closed. I can remember the pictures of all the employees, including my dad, he never moved with them to Bloxwich (I think it is in Walsall) he went to work for a firm called Wilcox & Lines in Bromford Lane.
M
mike-g
Guest
From BIRMINGHAM.S INDUSTRIAL HERATAGE 1900 2000 by RAY SHILL
In 1950 the copper refinery was transferred to Goscote and the Newhall works closed. The site was purchased by Birmingham Corporation who converted the buildings into the Museum of Science and Industry.
In 1950 the copper refinery was transferred to Goscote and the Newhall works closed. The site was purchased by Birmingham Corporation who converted the buildings into the Museum of Science and Industry.
Last edited by a moderator:
C
cornwall col
Guest
Newhall Street was the hub of Post Office Telephones and then BT in the Birmingham area. From Canterbury House, to Richmond House, Brindley House, Telephone House and another tower block. We also had the BT tower as well as the Anchor underground telephone exchange and Nuclear Fallout shelters and tunnels radiating out to other areas of the city....I understand that post Cold War these may well be turned into a tourist attraction
I have been looking at the history of Birmingham and the Newhall Street and St Pauls area recently. I took some modern day images in Feb2010 and merged these new pictures with archive images from Phyllis Nicklin (https://epapers.bham.ac.uk/chrysalis.html) to create a hybrid of old and new. Attached is my Newhall Street image, that features the 'old' museum frontage.
View attachment 44914
View attachment 44914
Does anyone know what this building is/was sandwiched between the two modern ones on Newhall (edited) Street? It's number 83 Newhall Street. Viv.
