I think it's the railway close to Brookfields schoolCould the building with the pitched roof be the GWR buildings on Pitsford street?
The rag market back of the bullring towards the flower market.hi folks this new thread will show unseen photos i have and also those that mikejee took during 69/73 so we will both be sharing this thread but we need your help to put locations to them..we will give it a couple of days mulling over each photo before posting the next one unless of course the location is sorted before then in which case another one will be posted...once again please feel free to save any of interest and if you want to post them on other forums and sites that is also fine but would appreciate it that if you do you credit them (with thanks to the birmingham history forum..
lyn
here is the first one...i have a feeling thats some of mine will be easy for a lot of you..
It’s the St Martins hotel in the old wholesale market.hi folks this new thread will show unseen photos i have and also those that mikejee took during 69/73 so we will both be sharing this thread but we need your help to put locations to them..we will give it a couple of days mulling over each photo before posting the next one unless of course the location is sorted before then in which case another one will be posted...once again please feel free to save any of interest and if you want to post them on other forums and sites that is also fine but would appreciate it that if you do you credit them (with thanks to the birmingham history forum..
lyn
here is the first one...i have a feeling thats some of mine will be easy for a lot of you..
I always liked Ludgate Hill, first discovered when I was exploring the city in the early 80s - the sudden tranquillity away from the centre, dipping perhaps to a subterranean stream, then rising gently to St Paul's church and Square. There used to be a good old pub, St Paul's Tavern, on the right of the rise in the photo - and I was disappointed to see that it had gone when I revisited old haunts in 2013: now an Italian restaurant, if I recall correctly.
Here are another two that have been on before (or possibly I only put one on). The old thread has gone, but we never determined for certain where this gasholder was . It appears to be incomplete, so presumably was being demolished. The pictures are between ones of a wedding and some of the Moseley St area, but are likely to have been taken on a different occasion than either.
The City Meat Market is the large building on the right. It was built in 1897 so quite new when this photo was taken.It cost I £127,833 and covered 3.5 acres. The tower was in fact a water tower and the round building was the Round House where I first started work in 1952. The Architecture was typically Victorian and designed to look more like something from the Middle East. Inside were wrought ironwork pillars and galleries. Today buildings like that would be preserved but the then City Engineer Mr Manzoni swept many of these iconic examples of our past away. If any one has more photos of the market I'd love to see them.I guess the meat market was pretty close to the Drovers Arms. That area of the city was not one I ventured often. I recalled seeing an old 'photo, on this site I am sure, of sheep being driven in Bradford Street.
I can confirm that sheep and cattle were driven down Bradford st from Fazeley station. I fact in the 1950's I bought livestock in Gloucester market on a Monday morning where they were loaded on to wagons at the railhead adjacent to the market arriving in the City Meat Market by late afternoon. Cattle were driven down Bradford St in herds reminiscent of the Wild West. Occasionally a beast would break away and charge up to the Bull Ring causing consternation among shoppersI guess the meat market was pretty close to the Drovers Arms. That area of the city was not one I ventured often. I recalled seeing an old 'photo, on this site I am sure, of sheep being driven in Bradford Street.
Just read this and yes it is Thomson’s sweet shop that sold toys too. I lived at 135 Kyrwicks laneBelow is one where Phil has suggested a location , but was not sure, though it was taken after one of the Stratford arms in Kyrwicks Lane , which would make his atribution likely. Wwould be nice if someone else finds it famiiar.
The three-quarters-covered name on the shop to the right of centre reads Thompson. There is an S.J. thompson in Deakins road, but this seems unlikely. Phil has suggested that it might be Kyrwicks Lane, and there was a Lilian Gertrude Thompson , shopkeeper, at 97 Kyrwicks Lane, which fits with the parts of the remaining letters that can be seen.
Thompsons and next door to the right a green grocers, then a bit of waste ground and the entrance to our yard where I lived at 8/91. Next to that Coley's the grocer which was very modern with glass counter and a bacon slicer which I longed to have a go with. Happy memories.Just read this and yes it is Thomson’s sweet shop that sold toys too. I lived at 135 Kyrwicks lane
First thoughts from me was the old Rag Market so agree with O.P. Edgbaston Street looking towards St Martin’s, Jamaica Row and the ‘top end’ of Digbeth.Lynn not sure of the street,but is it Edgbaston Street? I remember from that street you could get to the bus station and also a back entrance into the actual Bull Ring. (or Bullring!!). lol
This is Edgbaston st top of Digbethhi folks this new thread will show unseen photos i have and also those that mikejee took during 69/73 so we will both be sharing this thread but we need your help to put locations to them..we will give it a couple of days mulling over each photo before posting the next one unless of course the location is sorted before then in which case another one will be posted...once again please feel free to save any of interest and if you want to post them on other forums and sites that is also fine but would appreciate it that if you do you credit them (with thanks to the birmingham history forum..
lyn
here is the first one...i have a feeling thats some of mine will be easy for a lot of you..
I remembered that view quite well Jimbo. On most views others would usually be far better.
The next one has already been on the 1969-73 thread and a possible/ position listed, but , to me the map doesn't look right, so if anyone can confirm the position i'd be very grateful. The photo was taken around 1970 and ones taken around it were all in the church lane Aston area. It shows what had been Newbury's. the directories give address as 43-47 Lichfield road, but before no one remembered it and the map of the area doesn't look quite like it. Apart from the fact that it doesn't look much like I remember Lichfield road it seems to show one building on the site and the houses to the left look too far away . On c1938 maps the site is three separate buildings (and this building looks pre 1938 to me). I have marked it in red on the map. Maybe someone remembers it there, or perhaps at another place. If not I think I will have to say it was definitely at 43-47.and that the OS maps did not giove a very good representation.
with ref to mikes other unknown pub pic 1 and as the new adventurers pub corner of queens road and grosvenor road has been mentioned i popped down there today took these photos of the pub which is now a car lot..in mikes photo we can clearly see a chimney stack to the right...if you turn out of grosvenor road and turn left onto the lichfield road just a little way up on the right is part of a chimney stack...it has obviously been cut down a lot as it only say bros ltd on it so the name of the company is missing so maybe we are in the right area as mike did take photos around lichfield road... this is my last effort to solve this one..must move on lol
lyn
Hi, I'm extremely late to this but this pub is the Crown inn, Church Rd at Alfred Street, Aston. I found it on the Lost Pubs ProjectPhil
That was the one I was going to put up next. Here it is. It was in the midst of several around church lane Aston. It is obviously a pub, but have been unable to identify it. The highest resolution seems to show Mitchells & Butlers on the fascia.
Hi MikeI think that that is the solution, and that the first photo is definitely the back of the building in the second photo. The (now unreadable) plaques above the alleyways in picture two show that these must lead to courts, which would originally been named or numbered on them., The position of the alleyways to the back courts, together with the closeness of the railway buildings, limits which houses it could be. I have concluded, and would welcome comments, that on the c1955 map below. the buildings illustrated must be either nos 149-155 (fronting court 31 and marked with a red line in front of them) or 145-151 (fronting court 29, and with blue line in front of them). I think 149-155 is the most likely as the rail buildings do seem quite close.
I think that that is the solution, and that the first photo is definitely the back of the building in the second photo. The (now unreadable) plaques above the alleyways in picture two show that these must lead to courts, which would originally been named or numbered on them., The position of the alleyways to the back courts, together with the closeness of the railway buildings, limits which houses it could be. I have concluded, and would welcome comments, that on the c1955 map below. the buildings illustrated must be either nos 149-155 (fronting court 31 and marked with a red line in front of them) or 145-151 (fronting court 29, and with blue line in front of them). I think 149-155 is the most likely as the rail buildings do seem quite close.
HelI think that that is the solution, and that the first photo is definitely the back of the building in the second photo. The (now unreadable) plaques above the alleyways in picture two show that these must lead to courts, which would originally been named or numbered on them., The position of the alleyways to the back courts, together with the closeness of the railway buildings, limits which houses it could be. I have concluded, and would welcome comments, that on the c1955 map below. the buildings illustrated must be either nos 149-155 (fronting court 31 and marked with a red line in front of them) or 145-151 (fronting court 29, and with blue line in front of them). I think 149-155 is the most likely as the rail buildings do seem quite close.
Hello Mikejee this is the first time I’ve seen these 2 photos and can say with out doubt pic1.is 1 to 5/190 Pitsford St. having worked on this block before demolition, unusual for us to do much in this street as this was FCCs patch but I think this was Mayfield Terrace. and being back to back, just showing is what’s left of a toilet block , one of several pairs resently refurbished, all this positioned Just down from the entrance to the GWR goods yard. But as for picture no2.something tells me that was George st.West just around the corner from Pitsford st. and first property on the left we had to re-sheet the front door twice + hook & eye & padlock Which was a new idea for us when sheeting up voids as someone was running riot with tin snip’s on the area, but that’s a road in front of this terrace, reminds me of Clissold st. between Hingeston & Pressott st. during demolition 1967. But briefly back to Pitsford st. having done some work on refurbishing toilet blocks and obstructied drains back of 170. I don’t see any toilet blocks or brew houses on those plans shown above, these toilets being inclosed pan’ planks not dissimilar from those in Abbey st. Iate 60s early 1970. But anyway I hope this information is of some interest to that discussion of 2015.I think that that is the solution, and that the first photo is definitely the back of the building in the second photo. The (now unreadable) plaques above the alleyways in picture two show that these must lead to courts, which would originally been named or numbered on them., The position of the alleyways to the back courts, together with the closeness of the railway buildings, limits which houses it could be. I have concluded, and would welcome comments, that on the c1955 map below. the buildings illustrated must be either nos 149-155 (fronting court 31 and marked with a red line in front of them) or 145-151 (fronting court 29, and with blue line in front of them). I think 149-155 is the most likely as the rail buildings do seem quite clos
I think that that is the solution, and that the first photo is definitely the back of the building in the second photo. The (now unreadable) plaques above the alleyways in picture two show that these must lead to courts, which would originally been named or numbered on them., The position of the alleyways to the back courts, together with the closeness of the railway buildings, limits which houses it could be. I have concluded, and would welcome comments, that on the c1955 map below. the buildings illustrated must be either nos 149-155 (fronting court 31 and marked with a red line in front of them) or 145-151 (fronting court 29, and with blue line in front of them). I think 149-155 is the most likely as the rail buildings do seem quite close.Hello Mikejee this is the first time I’ve seen these 2 photos and can say with out doubt pic1.is 1 to 5/190 Pitsford St. having worked on this block before demolition, unusual for us to do much in this street as this was FCCs patch but I think this was Mayfield Terrace. and being back to back, just showing is what’s left of a toilet block , one of several pairs resently refurbished, all this positioned Just down from the entrance to the GWR goods yard. But as for picture no2.something tells me that was George st.West just around the corner from Pitsford st. and first property on the left we had to re-sheet the front door twice + hook & eye & padlock Which was a new idea for us when sheeting up voids as someone was running riot with tin snip’s on the area, but that’s a road in front of this terrace, reminds me of Clissold st. between Hingeston & Pressott st. during demolition 1967. But briefly back to Pitsford st. having done some work on refurbishing toilet blocks and obstructied drains back of 170. I don’t see any toilet blocks or brew houses on those plans shown above, these toilets being inclosed pan’ planks not dissimilar from those in Abbey st. Iate 60s early 1970. But anyway I hope this information is of some interest to that discussion of 2015.