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Memories : Essence Of The 50s And 60s

Your absolutely right about Norman Wisdom being big in Albania.
Apparantly when the country was a very strict communist regime they would strictly vet anything from the western world, and Normans escapades with Mr Grimshaw was seen as showing the population what life was like in the wicked outside world. The worker, Norman, being bullied by the upper class and boss Mr Grimshaw.
I visited there in 2010 and a lot of the population even then had heard of him.
In I think the 1970s he visited Tirana the capital and was mobbed like a hero. He appeared at the national football stadium to a heroes welcome.

Well that doesn't surprise me about the communist regime, prior to 1989 people in Russia thought we in the west were running around like Charles Dickens characters
 
Returning to some of those household visitors, there were the health vistors to mothers with pre-school children. Were they the source of the cod liver oil and orange concentrate that came in glass medicine bottles? GPs made house calls too, we had Doctor Donovan and later Barber. Once there were children at school the attendance board man might make a call if any had been off sick. The Betterware man was a favourite with his brushes and polishes, especially if we got to get a miniature tin, (sample?), to use with the dolls and teddy bears. Mum sometimes bought miniature 'Hovis' loaves, probably intended as individual rolls, that were ideal for doll tea parties. Our bread was delivered from a big wicker basket from Wilson's, just a loose wrap of tissue paper to protect it on the doorstep. The corners might get 'damaged' if we were locked out and hungry! Others had theirs from Hardings at The Swan. They still used little horse-drawn vans. Keen gardeners would quickly collect any deposits! Our milk came from Slater's, little orangy-red floats, smaller than those of the Co-op. Some years after Squeazy washing up liquid arrived in the shops we did for a while get deliveries of washing up liquid from a company based in Coleshill (maybe?). They would refill the empties.
The police seemed to be more visible, sometimes horse mounted. There were police houses too. I remember one, maybe two, at the junction of Melton Avenue and Lode Lane. We had a family friend who lived in one at Rednal.
Lots of things were made of wood, the clothes horse for drying clothes, clothes props to hold the washing line up and folding steps that were heavy and could nip your fingers when folded and that relied on a bit of rope to stop them spreading too far apart. Road work barriers were wood too, like giant saw horses, often with an oil lamp hung off them. Maintenance of tall street lights required a tower wagon, with a telescopic wooden structure at the back. I expect these were originally used for tram/trolley bus work. Window cleaners used wooden ladders, often a triangular affair. In the late sixties I saw a team of window cleaners working at Telephone House on Newhall Street. The opened the sash windows, climbed out onto the cill with a short ladder which was shoved tight against the frame. They then mounted the ladder while holding the window, the ladder leaning outwards. They must have been working at the equivalent of the third storey.
 
Some old memories came back the other night as I was watching TV and saw Torville and Dean winning their gold medals at the 1984 Winter Olympics. A couple of shots in the film showed the old Nottingham Ice Stadium which took me right back to my 1950s. The rink opened in 1939 but had become slightly shabby and run down by the 1950s. We didn't care, the ice was perfect, friendly atmosphere, and it was only 2/- to go in. Waiting for the rink to open we often went in the nearby Cricketer's Arms and played table skittles ... we really lived it up in those days !
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In the late 1990s it was demolished and replaced with a new super ice arena ... recently renamed the 'Motorpoint Arena'.
 
The police seemed to be more visible, sometimes horse mounted. There were police houses too. I remember one, maybe two, at the junction of Melton Avenue and Lode Lane.
Spargone, this police house was by the roundabout in Hobs Moat Road, which Melton Avenue came off. Just at the top off Jillcot Road where I lived.
 
This police house was by the roundabout in Hobs Moat Road, which Melton Avenue came off.
That's right, it was Hobs Moat that I had in mind, not Lode Lane. Police houses were notable for the notice boards in their gardens, the Colarado beetle was usually 'public enemy number one'. You must remember Haddock's garden supplies in Old Lode Lane, (mentioned in the Mapledene School thread).
Another visitor in the streets of the 1950/60s was British Railways parcel deliveries using their round-nosed Scamell Mechanical Horses. Didn't we see more fire engines about, with those large 'cart wheel' ladders? Flushing out fire hydrants seemed to happen often. They probably don't even check the 'H' signs now, what with GPS. Tar spreading on the roads is something else that has almost gone. The lovely smell, grit everywhere and mothers rubbing butter onto skin and clothes to clean we 'tar babies'! Melton Avenue reminds me of concrete surfaced roads, slabbed with tarred joints every twenty feet or so. Very noisy to drive on. They are still there of course but covered in a veneer of asphalt. (Lessons weren't learned, the M42 was made the same way in parts).
 
The 'cart wheel' type of ladder is called a 'wheeled escape'. They were rare in Devon as they were not suitable for the areas that were steep and hilly but those only in with more open areas such as the cities and large towns. I can see their use in places like Birmingham with house and factory frontages easily accessible from the roadway but as more and more buildings got taller and more houses were built with walled or hedged gardens extension ladders became far more useful. In thirty years I never saw one in use. Tarred and gravelled roads are still done but usually on minor residential or country roads this way. Tarmac is usually on busier roads.
 
Yes Spargone I remember Haddocks in Old Lode Lane at the bottom of Jillcot Rd. The owners had there house, a large detached premises built on the site in the early 60s. Its not there now so it must have been demolished. Martins the hardware store a little further down on the same side towards the Wheatsheaf, where Mahoneys is now.
Do you remember a mobile greengrocers yard about halfway between the two.
I seem to remember a couple of wooden bungalows with a veranda on the front there too.
In the early 60s the trucks they used were open backed and longer than the normal trucks with all the green grocery piled up. The cabs were very old fashioned looking like something from the 30s.
They were painted green all over. They may have had some horse drawn trailers as well.
The concrete roads were built like that because they never wore out. Plenty of roads around the country still the same, in fact I think Melton Avenue still is. Possibly Evenlode also up to my old school, Lyndon.
 
If I had been asked I would have placed Haddock's nearer the Wheatsheaf than Martin's but I wouldn't argue the point as you lived nearby. Indeed that might explain why I could never figure out after Martin's had changed hands and Haddock's had gone where the later was. One of their daughters was in my class at Mapledene so that is why it stuck in my mind. Can't say I remember any greengrocers though. Up until the late 1950s there was a timber yard, Parson's, accessed from Coventry Road. I have a feeling that having gone through the shed with the circular saw it was possible to come out on Old Lode Lane. The way into the timber yard was more or less opposite Coalway Avenue. To the left of that opening was a cafe. Two sisters, one called Rita, that lived on Coalway Avenue, beyond Corville Gardens, worked there. There have been so many changes in that 'island' between Birmingham and Solihull that it is hard to place where things were and when they changed. Abelson's plant hire was in that block, around about Morrison's car park. They had a tall solid fence above which I could see a locomotive funnel and crane jibs. After we moved from Sheldon I remember seeing a small locomotive in the Newhall Street museum that said it had been donated by Abelson's and I wondered if that had been the 'Sheldon' engine. As a student I worked at Arco Rewinds, with the blue neon running men. Around the back they had a small crane consisting of a cast iron column and a girder jib. The jib was on the ground and during a slack period the foreman got us to paint it and he hired an 'iron fairy' to pick it up. We wheeled the jib out on a small wooden truck and one wheel dropped into a puddle hole and the truck tilted, the jib fell off and the cast iron pulley broke. Very much a 'what do we do now' moment!
 
It is hard to recall but individual things were much louder in the 1950s & 60s. Percussive horses' hooves, not that common but still around, deafening pneumatic drills and their associated compressors which got even louder when the drills were drilling. These machines and the larger engined motorbikes now positively purr in comparison to those of times past. Aircraft like the Douglas DC-3 were slow and noisy, taking ages to get out of earshot. Now mail planes just slip into Elmdon in the early hours of the morning. Standing at the end of the runway the other day I saw a Virgin train pass through Marston Green virtually unheard. Back 'in the day' little boys in the same place would have heard a city-bound train in sufficient time to rush to the level crossing or footbridge to see it pass.
 
Well, people don't realise how noisy a late 1950s/1960s computer room could be with all the aircon, the card readers and punches and the line printers could be, Have a listen to the second half of this video about getting a 1959 IBM1401 business machine to read & compile a small Fortran II program, something it was never designed to do, of course. Total capacity of this enormous machine was a mere 16,000 characters, and it was very slow in comparison with modern PCs.


Maurice :-)
 
Just thinking back to the early 1950s I don't think I ever used words such as 'teenager', 'automation', 'computer' or transistor' and when we went in banks we had bank books in which amounts deposited and withdrawn were written in by the person behind the counter.

There was usually someone in the neighbourhood who ran Littlewoods or Gratton catalogues which would be left with families so they could look through them and order clothes or other things. After the goods were delivered the persons running the catologue would visit weeky to collect payments ... to some it was known as 'paying club money'. Most teenage lads also had a furtive look through the ladies underwear sections of the catalogues when their mums weren't looking.

On 4th October 1957 the USSR launched Sputnik 1 and the 'Space Age' had begun but I suppose to most people these days the decade seems strangely remote.
 
Well, people don't realise how noisy a late 1950s/1960s computer room could be with all the aircon, the card readers and punches and the line printers could be.
I never got to go into a computer room as such but remember the noise made by lineprinters, bandprinters and the Diabalo daisy wheel, all like mini-machine guns.
 
Favourable wind I can do likewise and even less favourable winds the roar of the sea on the shore. But I do live on the edge of a small quiet town. However I do have problems with some others speech!
 
These smells are certain to transport me back to that time :


School
Back to school after summer and the smell of new paint - lingered for weeks on end
School dinners - usually cabbage on the air
Leather satchels
Wax crayons

Buses
Damp and smokey upper deck of buses on a wet day
Smell of mothballs on clothing especially on the bus

The Street
Smoking coal fires on a winter's night - both indoor and out !
Privet on a warm day
Creosoted fences on a warm day
Air dried laundry, nice and fresh

Food
Ovaltine after a session at the swimming baths
Liver and bacon for tea - still have this, but not many young people do
Fragrant sage and onion cooking, meant Sunday lunch
Grocery shops smelling of raw bacon and cheese
Lemonade and ice cream

Health and beauty
Smell of gas mask at the dentists
Mum's face powder
Ellerman's Embrocation



Viv.
they still burn stinky coal here.and clean the ashes out. , i love liver and bacon. vimto dont tast the same .and i give the post man a xmas box.
that rubber thing they stuck in your mouth when you had gas, i am i feeling ill thinking about that thing.
 
The smell of this stuff effortlessly transports me back to the 50s and 60s. My white t-bar sandals would be whitened with it as well as my white plimsoles. Then later on when I had a pair of white, buckskin ice-skating boots I’d carefully whiten them with this and put petroleum jelly on the blades before replacing the blade guards and returning them back to my bag for the next session. Happy days. Viv.

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My main experience with 'blanco' was ceremonial when in the RAF. I would find it all a pain in the proverbial nowadays. :eek: Webbing in the Fire Service was grey - more like boot polish.
When my my No.1 son was around two years old we visited one of my wife's aunts in Paignton one Sunday afternoon. We were in her parlour, unseen the boy had wandered off into her sitting room - you know the place reserved for vicars and other special visitors. :grinning:
He re-appeared leaving a trail of white marks on her hall floor covering. What had happened was the goldfish bowl, with goldfish, which had been on a low table was now on the floor, the goldfish, by now, gasping for life on the carpet! Not sure what he had intended to do but the upshot was the bowl was tipped over and the contents soaked his legs and white plimsolls. Quick action got the bowl filled with water again and the goldfish restored to its life of swimming in circles.
 
Wonderful memories youngsters these days can’t emagine what the old days was like.
No frigs but we had a cold cupboard which was a wooden frame cupboard the sides & doors was in filled with a metal perforated sheets.
Spotted dick steaming in a saucepan covered in a muslin sheet, when cooked a slice with a dob of homemade jam.
Shopping at the CO-OP the cash was sent flying across the ceiling on wires to the trusted cashier.
No waste them days cauliflower & cabbage leafs cooked with a dob grease and severed as soup
Potatoa skins boiled.& mixed with meal and feed to chickens up the yard for fresh eggs
 
Wonderful memories youngsters these days can’t emagine what the old days was like.
No frigs but we had a cold cupboard which was a wooden frame cupboard the sides & doors was in filled with a metal perforated sheets.
Spotted dick steaming in a saucepan covered in a muslin sheet, when cooked a slice with a dob of homemade jam.
Shopping at the CO-OP the cash was sent flying across the ceiling on wires to the trusted cashier.
No waste them days cauliflower & cabbage leafs cooked with a dob grease and severed as soup
Potatoa skins boiled.& mixed with meal and feed to chickens up the yard for fresh eggs
that is how i remember it, spotted dick pudding yum yum. i eat the leaves. and stalks off a cooled cauliflower.
spuds i dont like. there is no food waisted in my house.if i dont eat it the beasties do..
 

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that is how i remember it, spotted dick pudding yum yum. i eat the leaves. and stalks off a cooled cauliflower.
spuds i dont like. there is no food waisted in my house.if i dont eat it the beasties do..
Where did that picture come from, I never thought I'd see one of them again.
 
Not keen on nostalgia this morning! Our combi boiler had died. No heating, no hot water. The guy is here with the new boiler, he needs the front door open, he needs the loft door off, its 3C outside and there is a lot of outside in here. Got to boil a kettle to have a shave, and several to fill the bath. No heater in the bathroom. Essence of the fifties, probably me when you can't get, what is now normal, a daily shower.
 
Not keen on nostalgia this morning! Our combi boiler had died. No heating, no hot water. The guy is here with the new boiler, he needs the front door open, he needs the loft door off, its 3C outside and there is a lot of outside in here. Got to boil a kettle to have a shave, and several to fill the bath. No heater in the bathroom. Essence of the fifties, probably me when you can't get, what is now normal, a daily shower.
living out here in the sticks.and having over head cables.our electric is off lots a times for hours, due to the weather.we just grin and bare it. there are folks worse off than us.
 
I've just had a "flashback" of the tin bath in the kitchen on the cold quarry-tile floor!!
I had forgotten the meatsafe but there was never much meat in there.
rosie.
 
I've just had a "flashback" of the tin bath in the kitchen on the cold quarry-tile floor!!
I had forgotten the meatsafe but there was never much meat in there.
rosie.
rosie our kitchen was too small,for the bath, just room for a sink dolly tub and gas boiler. as stated in another post.dad put it in the shed. the meatsafe was in a cupboard.
 
I've just had a "flashback" of the tin bath in the kitchen on the cold quarry-tile floor!!
I had forgotten the meatsafe but there was never much meat in there.
rosie.

My memories of the old tin bath go back to my gran and grand-dads. In the summer grand-dad used to get my uncle, who was only a few years older than I was, and me in the back yard. He'd first of all sit us on high stools in the back garden and cut our hair with a pair of hand clippers then after that the tin bath was brought out of the "shelter" and filled with kettles of hot water and a enamel bucket of cold and we'd both be scrubbed within an inch of our lives by Gran , he'd go first and then me.

I can't find a link at the moment but try and find a song by HarveyAndrews on his SNAPS album entitled "The old tin bath" and it sums up a typical Saturday night from those times.
 
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