Williamstreeter
master brummie
I seem to remember two elderly men behind the bar at The Grapes it was like a double act at times .
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Lost Birmingham Pubs
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cookie273uk
master brummie
After coming out of the cinema my Wife and I usually called in the Bodega, forgot where it was. Eric
Williamstreeter
master brummie
Bennetts Hill perhaps
was the grapes just a little way down from new st station...i also remember the gilded cage
lyn
Williamstreeter
master brummie
Yes Lyn it was it was on the corner almost opposite one of the entry/exit from the station , I remember the guilded cage also .
A Sparks
master brummie
I had to check where the Grapes was yesterday, I knew the name but couldn't quite place it. Apparently it's a convenience shop now.
The Grapes, Birmingham
www.closedpubs.co.uk
Reene the barmaid from The Temple Bar was brilliant she was about 75 years old and still doing a good job
thanks sparks i thought the building may still be there but could not be sure...such a shame that the city has lost so many pubs but at least we have our memories and photos of them
lyn
David Howell
New Member
My Father (Peter Howell) was one of the if not the last landlord of the Birmingham Arms in Moat Row This was for a period of time beginning late 1969 or early 1970 (I was at Uni at the time) The family lived on the top floor and I only stayed there on the odd occasion during the holidays. All my brothers grew up there and one or two still have their Brummy accents. It was the first job my father undertook after retiring from the RAF and being ex military he ran a pretty tight ship and clamped down hard on any trouble makers. They had a weekly jazz night in the first floor club room 'The Salutation Stomp' and I got hear some amazing musicians. My mum also worked behind the bar and was at the time going through a platinum blonde phase. The picture below shows my parents as they looked at the time along with one of my brothers and the pub's guard dog which was a Rhodesian Ridgeback called Simba. They later went on to run the Springvale Tavern in Willenhall which was all boarded up when I last drove past about 11 years ago like so many pubs today.This is a list of pubs around the Bull Ring and the licencees.
GRAND TURQ, 34 Bell Street corner of Lease Lane.
Manager;T.F. Fletcher 1924 T.P. Collier. 1944
BLACK SWAN HOTEL, 5, Bromsgrove Street.
Manager; Mrs E.B. Evans.1924 N.F. McCoy. 1944
AUSTRALIAN BAR. 48 Bromsgrove Street.
Not there in 1924 Jn. Rickerby 1944
NEW INN HOTEL.191-192 .Bromsgrove Street.
Manager; H.L. Jeacock 1924 A. Clemm. 1944
CASTLE & FALCON. 109 Digbeth.
Manager; A. Russell 1924 W.J.T. Wiley 1944
WAGON & HORSES. 14 Edgbaston Street.
Manager; R. Barlow 1924 Closed Down 1944
THE COMET 5 High Street.
Manager; W.E. Nelson 1924 Closed Down 1944
LION & LAMB. 17 High Street.
Manager;W. Brown 1924 Closed Down 1944
BROOK'S VAULT. 51 Jamaica Row (it was originally known as THE CITERION)
Manager; F. Holliday 1924 F. Brown 1944
PLOUGH & HARROW. 81 Jamaica Row..
Manager; S.R. Fisher 1924 F.W. Doran 1944
WOOLPACK HOTEL. 8-9 Moor Street.
Manager; F.W. Butler 1924 J. Blower 1944
SWAN HOTEL. 148 New Street.
Manager; Mrs A. Butler 1924 Closed Down 1944
PHOENIX HOTEL. 3 Park Street. (it was originally known as OLD PHOENIX INN)
Manager; P.Vincent-Bennett 1924 E. Freeman 1944.
THE BOARD INN. 7 Phillips Street.
Manager; Mrs L. Lord. 1924 A. Garnett 1944
SPREAD EAGLE. 14 Spiceal Street.
Manager; Samuel Rich 1924 Closed Down 1944
STEVENS BAR 149 New Street and 89 High Street,top of the Bull Ring aera. Closed, for trading after permitted hours on the 25th March 1958, upon expiration of lease.
Manager; R.E. East 1924 W.E. Allport. 1944 (an M&B House).
SMITHFIELD ARMS 47 Jamaica Row.
Manager; George Ameghino 1924 Mrs D.E. Caldicott 1944
(an Ansells House)
CROSS KEYS 91 Jamaica Row, corner of Sherlock Street.
Manager:G.J. Bunn 1924 J.W. Jesson 1944 (an Ansells House)
ST.MARTIN'S HOTEL corner of St.Martin's Lane & Jamaica Street.
Manager;C.H. Mitchell 1924 E.C. Cox 1944
( M & B Hotel,very popular. It closed in 1944)
BOARD VAULTS;56 Worcester Street, corner of Bell Street
Manager;F.R. Andrews 1924 A.Summerfield 1944
(an Ansells House)
BIRMINGHAM ARMS: 1 Moet Row.
Manager; L.A. Chantrill 1924 Mrs Emily Stokes 1944.
(an M&B House)
the TALBOT: 24 Moat Lane
Manager: Ted Lippey 1924 T.W. Gibson 1944
The above was extracted f.rom a book by Victor J. Price
"The Bull Ring Remembered"
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Does anyone know what the pub was called in Shadwell Street Birmingham, it was just along from St. Chad's Boys School.
When I knew it it had been turned into a house. My friends grandma lived there. I think it was double fronted and an entry in the middle. On one side you went into the house and on the other side went down to the cellar, where we used to play. (1940's)
I seem to remember that it had been white washed and there was a light in there.
When I knew it it had been turned into a house. My friends grandma lived there. I think it was double fronted and an entry in the middle. On one side you went into the house and on the other side went down to the cellar, where we used to play. (1940's)
I seem to remember that it had been white washed and there was a light in there.
below is a thread for shadwell st with photos
birminghamhistory.co.uk
Shadwell Street
hi i wondered if anyone could tell me what the shadwell st area was like around 1900 and what the district is / was called . thanx
birminghamhistory.co.uk
It must be more than 50 years ago when I drank cider in the Greyhound. It was usually with black currant.
Williamstreeter
master brummie
I remember it very well I used it irregularly in the late 60's , when John Pope was the gaffer , his Mrs did beautiful sandwiches
chrissweep
master brummie
Rough 'n' Black
patricia NASH
knowlegable brummie
the eagle is where i first knew my husband my sister worked there as a barmaid this was in the sixties , the manager was the late ray scott and his wife betty ray passed away in 2002 betty passed away 6 mths ago
The pubs I remembered as a child was The Gunmakers Arms affectionately known as the Guns. which was opposite the yard where I lived, in Bath Street. Saturday nights we children used to sit on the step at the bottom of the yard and watch the fights outside, we were never frightened as the men never bothered with us or shouted at us. My mom used to be a cleaner there. The other pub was the Bull on the corner of Price Street and Loveday Street. In those days children were not allowed inside pubs and used to sit outside whilst their parents were drinking, if they were lucky they had a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps. Opposite the pub was waste ground which was known as the bombed peck. One bonfire night all of the regulars from the Gunmakers arms came out to join our bonfire (which was being supervised by my uncle) he had dug a trench around it to keep us all safe and he had fireworks
sealed in a tin. We were all given a potato to hold, to stop us getting burned when we held a sparkler. ( something I always did with my children and grandchildren.). We had great fun that night, the men from the pub, bought us all bottles of pop and bags of crisps and joined in with us. Potatoes were put in the hot embers and the men were all laughing as they tried to retrieve them. The mums provide cocoa and toffee apples on sticks. The bonfire was so big that it was blazing away and the fire engine had to come and put it out. Such excitement. A night to remember.
sealed in a tin. We were all given a potato to hold, to stop us getting burned when we held a sparkler. ( something I always did with my children and grandchildren.). We had great fun that night, the men from the pub, bought us all bottles of pop and bags of crisps and joined in with us. Potatoes were put in the hot embers and the men were all laughing as they tried to retrieve them. The mums provide cocoa and toffee apples on sticks. The bonfire was so big that it was blazing away and the fire engine had to come and put it out. Such excitement. A night to remember.
MWS
from Bham
A little further afield in Cradley but my 3xgreat grandfather was a brewer and one time publican who seems to be associated with The Vine (long gone) in Park Row. Possibly his mother in law (my 4xg grandmother) was as well, there seems to be a newspaper article from 1834.
Question is were there no restrictions on what a pub could be called? I think I've found 3 pubs all called The Vine operating at the same time with barely a mile between them - Park Row, Colley Gate and Lyde Green.
Would seem quite easy to get confused especially if already a little worse for wear.
Question is were there no restrictions on what a pub could be called? I think I've found 3 pubs all called The Vine operating at the same time with barely a mile between them - Park Row, Colley Gate and Lyde Green.
Would seem quite easy to get confused especially if already a little worse for wear.
dont forget the hairy lemon maurice..think the cabin in town ended up being called that...just not a proper pub nameHence the stupid modern names like Slug & Lettuce and Glasshopper that seem to abound these days.
Maurice
Zoe_T
Brummie babby
Hello all, I've a newspaper advert from 1855 for the Plough and Harrow Wild Green [sic]. Can anyone point me to where this pub was in Wylde Green / whether it is an existing building/pub with a different name. The ad describes the Plough and Harrow being on the main road from Birmingham to Sutton. Thank you.
MWS
from Bham
The earliest map I can find of Wylde Green is 1889. The only pub seems to be the Wylde Green Hotel.
However on the 1861 census William King is listed as Publican on Sutton Road, Wylde Green (doesn't say Plough & Harrow) but there is a newspaper report of the death of his wife, Eliza in 1860 at the Plough & Harrow.
Willian Green is listed between The Oaklands and Wylde Green House on the 1861 census both of which are on this map...
The Wylde Green Hotel is on the opposite side of the road to The Oaklands. If this is the renamed Plough & Harrow or a different pub I don't know.