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London Prentice Street

london prentice st 1880s...numbers 3 to 6..i will also post this one under the streets thread

lyn
 
hi viv i think there is a bit more info under the maps thread...london prentice st and rope walk

lyn
 
:grinsmile:: God I've got a serious phobia of maps and mapping Lyn! I' m outa here. (Hadn't noticed the thread title). But before I hoof it, have a gut feeling that this is an interesting street name with probably a bit of interesting history if anyone has any ideas. :biggrin:Viv
 
I wonder If this has an Irish background and nothing to do with London I seem to recall an Irish song with the words "london Prentice" in it.Dek
 
dek carr said:
I wonder If this has an Irish background and nothing to do with London I seem to recall an Irish song with the words "london Prentice" in it.Dek
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dek the pic came from a carl chinn book..BIRMINGHAM IRISH MAKING OUR MARK..there was a great irish presence in this area at the time...

lyn
 
Presumably 3 -6 are the block of four neareat to us. That makes the larger building with bay window the shop at no 7 (in 1880) of Patrick Moran, and the faint building further along nos 8-9. 8-9 in 1880 was occupied by John Melvin, who is rather repulsively describbed as a skin merchant.
 
Hi

Most references to this name confirm it is an Abbreviation of Apprentice
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It is uncertain whether the London Apprentice owes its name to the apprentice lads of the various livery companies of London who would row out to Isleworth in gaily decked barges during their free time, or to the famous ballad ‘The honour of an Apprentice of London '.

It seems like a lot we do historic references are lost in time

Mike Jenks
 
Thanks for the photo Lyn, my great grandparents lived at 42 London Prentice Street in 1881, it is wonderful to see what it was like. It had a dreadful reputation from what I have read in articles by Carl Chinn, and they were mainly Irish or of Irish descent, as were my family. There is another thread on the Forum re this street but I have never seen a photo before.
 
Thanks for posting the photo Lyn. This is the first one I have ever seen of London Prentice Street. I believe it was a very tough area to live in but like Lynne commented, it doesn't look as bad as I thought it would!
 
hi judy i was hoping you would spot it...not easy to find pics of this street...

lyn:)
 
Lyn - My gt.grandfather was born at 38 London Prentice Street in 1847, which seems to have been a lodging house. The family later moved to No.12 Court, so this photo is the other end of the street to where they lived. I wonder if there are any other photos in existence?

Judy
 
judy i have been told that there maybe another one but tracking it down may prove difficult...if i do come accross anymore will post them straight away for you..

lyn
 
That would be great Lyn. I will keep my fingers crossed. I know that if anyone can find them, you can :)
 
will do my best judy but ive just been told the other pic could be on the forum but what thread its on is anyones guess..this could be a very long search..:cry::D
 
Judy, on the 1851 census I've got two lots of my rellies in Court 12, one in house 1 and the other in house 5. Was this when your rellies were there.
Lynne.
 
Hello Lynne - Yes my family were in House No 8 x Court 12 in the 1851 Census. What were the names of your family living in this Court, as they must have known each other? Were they Hunter, also an Ash Pan Maker like my 2 x gt.grandfather, and Austin? See that you also have Irish ancestors! My 2 x gt grandfather Michael Martin (was Gilmartin/Kilmartin) was there with his wife Jane, and children James (my gt.grandfather) and Mary Ann, plus a lodger Bridget Lyons. The name Michael Martin was mistranscribed as Mahel Martin.

Judy
 
Hello Judy, mine were Austins at No.1, still there on the 61 as well and Pughs at No.5. On my dads side I'm more Irish than anything else, my 2 x gt grandfather Edwin Austin came from Kent but but all the Pughs were Irish. My gt. grandmother Mary Ann Austin married Michael Gallagher, he was from Sligo,but thats all I know about him before he came to England. What a small world.
Lynne.
 
lynne and judy how fascinating that 160 years on the rellies of 3 familys living in the same court in this street should meet on this forum...:) as our nan would say..i will go to the foot of our stairs:Dbrilliant stuff

lyn
 
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could be lynne and judys rellies children and your rellies children must have played together...as you say its a small world..

lyn
 
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