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Lloyds Bank
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superdad3
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Fascinating thread. The Taylors of"Taylor & Lloyds Bank are a topic I am very interested in. It was John Taylor & his son John Taylor (junior) who as mentioned were co-founders with the Lloyd family of the bank.
John Taylor 1711-1775 was originally a cabinet maker who set up a factory in Union Street to make "Brummagen Toys". This is considered to be the first Birmingham factory as we know them. John Taylor went on to become one of Birmingham's leading industrialists and was seriously rich. As well as Bordesley Hall [where he lived] he owned Sheldon Hall, the Moseley Hall Estate and the Moor Green Estate. In total a land ownership of over 2000 acres. The family connection with the bank ended with the death of James Taylor in 1852.
The beehive sign was in use from 1822 but the Black Horse sign may have been even earlier possibly inherited from a bank taken over by Taylor & Lloyds. This illustration is taken
from Lloyds web site but without an explanation.
John Taylor 1711-1775 was originally a cabinet maker who set up a factory in Union Street to make "Brummagen Toys". This is considered to be the first Birmingham factory as we know them. John Taylor went on to become one of Birmingham's leading industrialists and was seriously rich. As well as Bordesley Hall [where he lived] he owned Sheldon Hall, the Moseley Hall Estate and the Moor Green Estate. In total a land ownership of over 2000 acres. The family connection with the bank ended with the death of James Taylor in 1852.
The beehive sign was in use from 1822 but the Black Horse sign may have been even earlier possibly inherited from a bank taken over by Taylor & Lloyds. This illustration is taken
from Lloyds web site but without an explanation.
The Black Horse regardant (looking backwards) device dates from 1677 when Humphrey Stokes, who was a goldsmith & banker, adopted it for his shop. The business later became part of Barnett, Hoares & Co. Lloyds took over that bank in 1884 and traded 'At The Sign of the Black Horse'
This has been claimed as the site of the precursor of Lloyds Bank at 64. High Street. This is not really correct. The Birmingham Bank was in this building c1845. However Taylor & LLoyds, which preceded it, was formed in Dale End in 1765 (note date brandished on the front) at a site next to Bank Passage (long gone), which was between 7 and 9 Dale End. The position of the building in the photo and the original office of
Taylor & LLoyds are shown in red in the maps below.
Taylor & LLoyds are shown in red in the maps below.
I worked in the Rotunda for the Legal & General 1971-74 and in 1973, we were working overtime on saturday mornings and I stayed later than the others because I was off to watch the Blues in the afternoon. However, I came out of the 13th floor office and found the lifts shut down so walked down the stairs, past lloyds doors and found the Rotunda front door locked and I couldnt get out - until a nice policeman arrived as I had set the bank burglar alarm off. He had a master key and after giving him my explanation, he gave me a lift to St Andrews in his panda car as he was a Blues fan too. If he had supported the brethren across the expressway, I might still be locked up......