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Ladywood Road

Shortie

Shortie

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Can anyone tell me where on Ladywood Road this photograph was taken please? Is the road with the Cadbury's advertisement Friston Street by any chance? This shows that Ladywood Road was a holloway at one time, but where was the raised pavement?

I think this is the area which part of my family lived. The photo was in an album collected between 1905 and 1920 by a gt gt aunt, and I suspect it was to illustrate their home ground, so to speak.

Shortie
 
Shortie
It cannot be Friston road leading off, as this is almost opposite Francis road, and there is no road opposite. the turning must be Morville St, as the road is turning to the left slighgtly a little further on and the pavement is elevated for a short distance. You can see a similar elevation for a short distance on the map , where this is indicated by having a solid line between the pavement and road, rather than a dotted one. This makes the pub on the opposite shop to the corner you mention the Eagle & Ball . The shop is no 69 and is listed :
1900 Arthur Nicholls
1903-08 Thomas Onions
1912-21 Mrs Minnie Heybeard

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Definitely Morville Street, the raised bit of the pavement can still be seen on this modern day picture, the original raised pavement complete with original railings were still there up until the redevelopment of the Children’s Hospital a few years ago. Morville Street can be seen to the left of this photo.
 
Thanks Dave for the current photo - brilliant. Thanks Mike for the full explanation, it is a great help. My gran was brought up by her aunt after her mother died and they lived in many properties, the last couple being along Ladywood Road, but cannot remember the numbers offhand. They also had a shop in Friston Street, but not for long. To John - yes, the photo is brilliant I agree. The album it came out of is full of postcard style birthday cards, some of which have brought a tear to my eye - from my gran to her aunt, whom she called 'Mother'. The sentiments are a bit slushy, but they are wonderful reminders of a less complicated life. I just hope my daughters will wish to keep them and not trash them once I have departed.

Shortie
 
I'm really hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to find out if 214 Ladywood Road existed or if my cousin is confused? She left England in 1958 aged 11 to live in Australia and her son has just visited me. We went to Ladywood Road and were very confused! She is adamant that her house shared a wall with the back of the Children's hospital but even looking at information I have found online, I'm unable to work it out. Is she right? Ladywood Road is so small now! Thank you in advance. Lorraine
 
Hi smartsave what have ou been looking at because the old ladywood road changed from what it used to be,
Its completely changed and brought forward widely and how long ago did you done your research ? ,
May be our friend whom specialises in the old maps of birmingham namely mike whom is a geniuos with his maps
Might just have one and givin that you have an addrees might i say might be able to pin point it out for you
Should he see your request today best of luck Alan,, Astonian,,,,
 
Thank you for replying. I was on Ladywood Road Tuesday. It was a surreal experience as we walked down the road, with my Australian cousin, while he facetimed his Mother back in Australia to see if she recognised anything, which she didn't. I've looked at some older maps online but still can't make head nor tail of it so I'm hoping that someone else can.
 
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I'm really hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to find out if 214 Ladywood Road existed or if my cousin is confused? She left England in 1958 aged 11 to live in Australia and her son has just visited me. We went to Ladywood Road and were very confused! She is adamant that her house shared a wall with the back of the Children's hospital but even looking at information I have found online, I'm unable to work it out. Is she right? Ladywood Road is so small now! Thank you in advance. Lorraine
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214 did exist, shown on the 1950s map in orange. John
 

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Hi Startsave;
but to be honest what i recall part of the old ladywood road which really aint in excistance any more and what was left she would never remember any think any way before you had taken any photos ,
Sorry about calling you as i did just as you see above its a distraction from my radio breaking my concentration i was brought up in Ladywood my self and i had relies living around that area in the big houses with servants in dutchess road
And i even wittnessed the demolishing of the area ,but i have some old photograpghs of the old ladywood road so i will dig out my old books as well this afternoon and i will down load some of them and may be one might jog her
Memory but truly our mike hes a moderator and as loads of areas and maps of birmingham areas so hope fully if he spotts your requst he may get you on a map of those years and he will pin point the house in a red marker
but unless he as got one i cannot say but bear with us on this because alot of or brillient members are not yet on line as they will be out working speak to you soon Astonian;;;;;;
 
Hi smart savage
Sorry i have missed my headline this evening with photograpghs that may jogg her memory i have to tell you i will have them on by tommorow evening i have pulled all my history files out but it as made me tired, and that by my tiring is because i have cancer of the bowels and of the liver which i have to say is termible shortly and was given 6 months of span of life i can only spend so much time during the day and then i have got to get back to bed and just of late i have been sorting all the other books and ledgers and i have been offering them to forum members which they do have off me for free and free postage thats made me tired out these last couple of days the books would be no good to my lads they aint intrested in the history of brum i have ledgers from pubs dating back to the 17 hundreds when they used to use the featherin writing there testing from the kegs of tradional ales so i am clearing out the loft of them but i will have some for you tomorrow evening or when you can get on for ou to see as i said i grew up in ladywood just down the road from your mom take care Alan ; Astonian;;;;;
 
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Hi smart savage
Sorry i have missed my headline this evening with photograpghs that may jogg her memory i have to tell you i will have them on by tommorow evening i have pulled all my history files out but it as made me tired, and that by my tiring is because i have cancer of the bowels and of the liver which i have to say is termible shortly and was given 6 months of span of life i can only spend so much time during the day and then i have got to get back to bed and just of late i have been sorting all the other books and ledgers and i have been offering them to forum members which they do have off me for free and free postage thats made me tired out these last couple of days the books would be no good to my lads they aint intrested in the history of brum i have ledgers from pubs dating back to the 17 hundreds when they used to use the featherin writing there testing from the kegs of tradional ales so i am clearing out the loft of them but i will have some for you tomorrow evening or when you can get on for ou to see as i said i grew up in ladywood just down the road from your mom take care Alan ; Astonian;;;;;
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Hi Alan. Please don't worry. I am very grateful for any help you can give me. My great aunt Ivy, her husband Sam Gilder and their children Terry, Pauline and Diane left Ladywood road for Australia in 1958. They remember their childhood very fondly and I got to meet Pauline's son Nick this week, which was amazing.
I am very sorry to hear of your health problems.
 
A nice photograph. If confirmation were need to tram route blind showing 33 would confirm it. The ornate tram stop plate is shown to good effect; a request stop from the city. A motorcycle and sidecar hide behind the brick pillar.
 
nice photo carolina not seen it before but looking at the map on post 4 i cant see any signs of a hospital as mentioned on post1 although the poster could not be certain a hospital was there... or have i missed something

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Lyn - the large buildings to the right of 214 as you look at the map are the Children's Hospital. On this later map 214 (red marker) has been demolished but the Hospital is marked.
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Hi Smartsavage
Here is the photograpghs i promised to you sorry i am late hopeing they will generate her thinking and of the young cousins whom will probaly recall i do have a load to share ,
Here is the first six in order i hope we can get her memory working best wishes Alan Astonian
 

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Hi smartsavage after seeing all those pics i would like you and other memberd on the pics of the pallie desal
there is thre figures tBhere on the photograpgh and i would like to tell you that the little boys you see at thee gate was infact my younger brother phillip and the further in the taller one infact myself and the figure on the left coming down towards us was our mate and next door he lived to us he was also phillip he was bonna hollond youg son if anybody recalls the cross keys pub in steward street ladywood he was the pigioen fancier and he wa the local chimmney sweep whom at one time did buy off watty greens pub that barrow phil brought down to pile in the wood for chopping up and bungerling bundles of wood at doors around the area for 3d a bungle and if anybody recalls the garage just before the turf pub after that there is a pair of gates which a guy called les owned an ice cream van little out of season then he also started bungling woods services but only to shop keepers so thats how phil got the idea from
Also on that afternoon tea time ish we was there when the photograpgh was taken across the road of the monu,mment road by the number 8 bus stop we always that at that precise time we thought it was a mr Bates whom lived in line with the bus stop there house up on monument road was on high ground and it was a slope up the garden path and then there was a serious of steps to step up before in the house the bus stop was moved from the other side of the springhill by
the paper shop after all these years i now know whom the really photograpgher was its our frind mr Alton
there is a series of picts on monument rooad he dode one op
 
Astonian said:
Hi smartsavage after seeing all those pics i would like you and other memberd on the pics of the pallie desal
there is thre figures tBhere on the photograpgh and i would like to tell you that the little boys you see at thee gate was infact my younger brother phillip and the further in the taller one infact myself and the figure on the left coming down towards us was our mate and next door he lived to us he was also phillip he was bonna hollond youg son if anybody recalls the cross keys pub in steward street ladywood he was the pigioen fancier and he wa the local chimmney sweep whom at one time did buy off watty greens pub that barrow phil brought down to pile in the wood for chopping up and bungerling bundles of wood at doors around the area for 3d a bungle and if anybody recalls the garage just before the turf pub after that there is a pair of gates which a guy called les owned an ice cream van little out of season then he also started bungling woods services but only to shop keepers so thats how phil got the idea from
Also on that afternoon tea time ish we was there when the photograpgh was taken across the road of the monu,mment road by the number 8 bus stop we always that at that precise time we thought it was a mr Bates whom lived in line with the bus stop there house up on monument road was on high ground and it was a slope up the garden path and then there was a serious of steps to step up before in the house the bus stop was moved from the other side of the springhill by
the paper shop after all these years i now know whom the really photograpgher was its our frind mr Alton
there is a series of picts on monument rooad he dode one op
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Great pictures brings back a lot of memories of the area good old days. A good account of what it was like growing up in Ladywood.
 
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hi folks i have set of photos that i dont think i have posted yet so hope they prove of interest to members...hover over them to see dates taken and in some cases the numbers...i thought photo 14 was interesting as it shows a domestic employment agency..all gone now ;
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brilliant pics.Thank you for posting them. lyn
 
Again another set of important photos. Nothing has survived along the road (only the Edgbaston Telephone Exchange- don’t know the date of the building). Today it all looks characterless, unlike the old photos. Viv.
 
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Again another set of important photos. Nothing has survived along the road (only the Edgbaston Telephone Exchange- don’t know the date of the building). Today it all looks characterless, unlike the old photos. Viv.
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quite agree viv..as i would say no soul:(
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Astoness said:
hi folks i have set of photos that i dont think i have posted yet so hope they prove of interest to members...hover over them to see dates taken and in some cases the numbers...i thought photo 14 was interesting as it shows a domestic employment agency..all gone now :(

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The first picture 'Security Scaffolds' I would suggest is Spring Hill. George st west is behind the photographer and Steward st can be seen at the end of the shops to the right.
 
There is much of interest in the photographs. I knew Ladywood Road as I often was in the area visiting a relation and the Oratory. Ladywood Road, from 1904 until 1947 was part of the 33 tram route from Navigation Street to a junction with Dudley Road. The memorable places were the Children's Hospital - where I spent a little while during the blitz - and the Chamberlain Gardens.
In the photos posted by Lyn my attention was drawn to the lamp posts and traction poles which had at least three types of shades, square, rectangular and round. The Crown Stores, in Monument Road catered for all it seems. Ansells, M&B, Whitbread and for teetotallers there was tea and Coca-Cola. ;)
Was Johnsons Fruit Market in Ladywood Road? It seems to have gas lighting, as does Grosvenor Street West.
The Beaufort Garage looks like it might have been a pub or inn at one time. It was noticeable - a couple of photographs support that fact - that despite the run down appearance of most buildings those that had gardens, principally small ones, were generally looked after with a flowers which did brighten the place up a little.
 
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