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Vivienne14 said:
For years I've tired to remember exactly were there was a nursery (the plantsman type) along Kingstanding Road. Now I've just spotted this on Google maps and think it might be the place. This spot is just along from Old Oscott Hill, heading towards the Circle. Does anyone know if this was once a nursery? We used to buy plants, shrubs etc from there, maybe even our Christmas tree. I did wonder if it was part of a farm, but we definitely used to go in through a gate off K'standing Rd. I'm talking about it being there in the mid/late 1950s. Viv.

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Had a breakthrough on this today, I’ve now found the name of the nursery: Grasmere Nurseries. Seems they sold a lot of shrubs, just as I remember in the 1950s/60s. They seem to have opened on a Sunday. I have a very vague memory of going there on a Sunday morning followed by Sunday School at the Settlement, then home for Sunday lunch.

In the 1940s they seem to have bought up lots of turf. Maybe this is when the gardening/home improvement movement got going.

The first advert is from 1965, the second two from 1948.

Viv.
 

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Hi folks, I’m looking to see if anyone has any class photos from Kingsland School between the years of 1974-1981
 
dennis said:
Hi Vicky,
Yes I believe Dulwich Rd infants is now Warren farm infants,
I also went to Dulwich Rd senior boy's school that was way back in the early forties, also I was in the scoutsat Brackenberry Rd Church
Mr Howe was Scoutmaster, his wife was head of the girl guides
I'm not sure of the wherabouts of the farm so I won't guess
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My understanding, from looking at a map drawn around 1920 is that the buildings of Warren Farm were about where the junction of Charlton Road and Dulwich Road is today and from the map it looks like it was accessed from Hawthorn Road along a track that is roughly where Charlton Road is today.
 
thanks mike i always thought that warren farm was situated a bit further over on warren farm road so i have just learned something

lyn
 
Vivienne14 said:
Had a breakthrough on this today, I’ve now found the name of the nursery: Grasmere Nurseries. Seems they sold a lot of shrubs, just as I remember in the 1950s/60s. They seem to have opened on a Sunday. I have a very vague memory of going there on a Sunday morning followed by Sunday School at the Settlement, then home for Sunday lunch.

In the 1940s they seem to have bought up lots of turf. Maybe this is when the gardening/home improvement movement got going.

The first advert is from 1965, the second two from 1948.

Viv.
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I'm almost sure Grasmere Nurseries to left of Midlands Counties Dairy on Kingstanding Road near the junction with Cranbourne Road.
 
Looking on Streetview I’d say it was where Heather Croft is now - relatively modern development. Seems appropriately named ! Viv.
 
Hi there, I am wondering if anyone remembers a Mr. Albert Parry that lived at 122 Cranbourne Road from about 1939 until he passed away in 1977 - his wife was called Alice and he had two sons Kenneth and David (also another son Roy who passed away young).
 
Thomas Parry said:
Hi there, I am wondering if anyone remembers a Mr. Albert Parry that lived at 122 Cranbourne Road from about 1939 until he passed away in 1977 - his wife was called Alice and he had two sons Kenneth and David (also another son Roy who passed away young).
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Eric Gibson said:
He was our doctor until he moved to Canada, a very nice man and a damned good doctor, he had cause to deal with my wife a few times, she was a bit accident prone, he stitched her leg when she dropped a glass panel and it sliced into it. He also attended our house when she had a fit whilst pregnant with our second child.
The docs who took over were the McMinns, husband and wife, they were customers of mine when I worked at Brooklyn Garage.
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Blimey, I remember Dr McMinn. She must have been there a long time. She was my doctor when I was at school in the early nineties.
 
Eric Gibson said:
The ones to your right as you walked down Dyas Road were not fenced off when I moved into Birdbrook Road in 1956, I used to go across the top and down as a shortcut to my house, still the same when I moved out in 1965.

They were built on some time after I left.

Opposite my house was an open field that later became, I believe, the driving test centre.

Ps. I went to Cranbourne Road school too, from 1940 to 45
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My Sisters Brenda and Gertrude and I lived with my Mother and Father at 106 Atlantic road, next to our house there was some waste land known as the dip opposite the Dip there was a right of way through to Kingstanding Road, this was a short cut To and from Cranborne road school and the 29 bus stop for people who lived in Birdbrook Rd Rodlington Ave and the back of the houses on one side of Corbridge ave ( I think that was the name , its been a long time ago since I was in that aria. Al.
 
Trident said:
My Sisters Brenda and Gertrude and I lived with my Mother and Father at 106 Atlantic road, next to our house there was some waste land known as the dip opposite the Dip there was a right of way through to Kingstanding Road, this was a short cut To and from Cranborne road school and the 29 bus stop for people who lived in Birdbrook Rd Rodlington Ave and the back of the houses on one side of Corbridge ave ( I think that was the name , its been a long time ago since I was in that aria. Al.
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You might be able to spot your house in the aerial pic shown in the post quoted below .... :)
the pic is a forum link and is only visible if logged in
oldMohawk said:
As well as the area in post#39, I roamed or travelled to grandparents across this area but some years later than the 1938 date of this image.
Red dot marks the Hare & Hounds Pub on the Kingstanding Rd.
Green dot marks a gap between the houses in Atlantic Road - why was it not built upon ?
Yellow dot marks the Kingstanding Rd-Hawthorn Rd-Dyas Rd-Warren Farm Rd junction.
Blue dot marks a sand quarry off Dyas Rd ... the 'cliffs' were as high as houses.
Mauve dot marks Kingstanding Rd Drill Hall with Co op dairy next to it and Goodway Rd to the right.
Orange dot marks Cavandale Ave unfinished in this image but finished by the start of WW2.
Most of the dot-marked places on the pic have been mentioned in various posts on the froum.
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No the 33 bus ran down Warren farm road.
The Number 28 bus used to run down Dyas road across Birdbrook road then up to the terminus at Aldridge road and Dyas road. if you got off the Bus at the Terminus turned right you would pass Aldridge road school. then on to the old horns Pub
We could see that school from our house but we had to go to Dulwich road snr school I lived in Atlantic road from 1936 to 1970. regards Al.
 
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oldMohawk said:
You might be able to spot your house in the aerial pic shown in the post quoted below .... :)
the pic is a forum link and is only visible if logged in
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Thanks for the map. Yes regarding the gap between the houses I believe the builders found it too steep to build on at the time so picked the easy ones, that site was built on in late 60s or early 70s when they used concrete raft instead of footings, they just leveled it out to a gentle slope then cast a slab, then built on that.
looking at your map our house was the first to the left of the gap, Al.
 
I have at times used all of those buses, the 29 terminated at Kingstanding circle, 29A at Pheasey Estate, 33 at Finchley Road/Kings Road, 28 at Hawthorn Road (when I were a lad), later extended on through to Aldridge Road.
 
As a youngster I also used all of those buses and when I was very young I was taken on a 33 which was towing a 'producer gas and coke' trailer. It struggled up the hill to Greenholm Road were we caught it, made it's way to just past Goodway Road, but then came to a halt by the drill hall and could not make it up the hill to Hawthorn Road.
 
Remember that incline (and others) along Kingstanding Road in the snow. They often had trouble getting up the hill. You always had to be prepared to get off and walk. Viv.
 
Trident said:
My Sisters Brenda and Gertrude and I lived with my Mother and Father at 106 Atlantic road, next to our house there was some waste land known as the dip opposite the Dip there was a right of way through to Kingstanding Road, this was a short cut To and from Cranborne road school and the 29 bus stop for people who lived in Birdbrook Rd Rodlington Ave and the back of the houses on one side of Corbridge ave ( I think that was the name , its been a long time ago since I was in that aria. Al.
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Looking at a earlier post of yours I believe your Sister Brenda was a friend of my late Sister Jean when they were teenagers .regards Diane
 
Hi Diane, I do remember one of my Sisters friends by the name of Jean Perks or something like that, would that have been your sister? Al.
 
Vivienne14 said:
Had a breakthrough on this today, I’ve now found the name of the nursery: Grasmere Nurseries. Seems they sold a lot of shrubs, just as I remember in the 1950s/60s. They seem to have opened on a Sunday. I have a very vague memory of going there on a Sunday morning followed by Sunday School at the Settlement, then home for Sunday lunch.

In the 1940s they seem to have bought up lots of turf. Maybe this is when the gardening/home improvement movement got going.

The first advert is from 1965, the second two from 1948.

Viv.
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I bilevel the land behind that nursery was part of the old Ryans farm he was the brother of Miss Ryan who that had the post office and paper shop, further along on the opposite side of the road near the Hare and Hounds Pub there were several cottages either side of the P.O. me and my sister used to deliver newspapers from the paper shop.
I have a photo of the cottages somewhere but cant put my finger on it at present
 
Yep Eric, I also remember the pigs and the sties, also the sheds behind the shop, some with farm machinery in them.
My paper round was from the shop along the kingstanding road to Hotspure road then back upto Harringay road and then Stretham grove. Thursdays the big day with all the magazines. Al.
 
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