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King GEORGE Blue. Two And A Half Penny Stamp

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Astonian

gone but not forgotten
Hi Every Body
Could Some-BODY Please Tell Me When Was The Last Year Of Circulation Used For This Coloured Blue Two And A Half Penny Stamp Used For Postage Please I Have In My Possession An Unused Addressed Evelope To A CERTAIN Person Addressed In Cheltham And Was Going To Be Posted By PEARL Assurance Of London ,The Stamp As Not Been Water marked , It Will Give Me An Idea As To When This Person Is Still Around To Day . Once Again I Thank Every body For There Support Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,..
 
HI Good Morning Beamish . Sorry I Missed Posted It It Was Meant To Be The Penny In The Old Money Which Would Have Been The PENNY -- D ,Coinage . Many thanks ASTONIAN ,;
 
HI BEAMISH
At This PRECICE TIME I DO NOT KNOW MY HEAD HIS LIKE A SIV
BUT IT NOT THE ONE YOU HAVE SHOWN ME ON THE STAMP IT GOT A LITLE CROWN ABOVE HIS HEAD AND ITS BLUE AND NEXT TO THE PRICE ITS A LITTLE d
I CANNOT DOWN THE PICTURE JUST YET BECAUSE MY SON IS NOT HERE TO DO IT FOR ME OTHERWISE I COULD HAVE PUT IT ON REGARDING THE NUMICALS
I VE SEEM TO FOR GOTTEN THEM BUT THE PICTURE IS VERY DIFFERENT AND ITS NOT JUBERLEE ONE THANKS ASTONIAN
 
Hi beamish
thats the ones beamish you are a real star.
Any idea,s of the the last period of the year they stopped using them best wishes astonian ,.;;;
 
Hello again,

These particular stamps were from 1950. So probably the 1d Blue would have been available until the King's death in 1952.
 
beamish, It is possible that the Royal Mail raised the price to 1.5d before George Vl death. Len.
 
lencops said:
beamish, It is possible that the Royal Mail raised the price to 1.5d before George Vl death. Len.
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Hi Len

The 2 1/2d Ultramarine blue stamp was issued between 1937 and 1947. There was also a light ultramarine issue in 1941/1942. The same design was reissued in 1950/1951, but the 2 1/2d stamp was red. The letter rate went up on 1 May 1940 from 1 1/2d to 2 1/2d, so the window when the stamp would have been current for a sealed letter would have been from
1940 to 1947, or 1941/1942 if the lighter blue. The letter rate increased
to 3d in the second half of 1957 in Elizabeth's reign, so although unlikely, it could have been used up to this time.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Thanks Dave89, So the penny blue could have been added to a 2d stamp to make up the postage to 3d etc. Len.
 
Len, You could be right. Its very difficult to find precise info.

Found this:


1952 V1Queen Elizabeth 11
Sc293 SG516
1d blue



1951 King George V1
Sc281 SG504
1d light blue

 
lencops said:
Thanks Dave89, So the penny blue could have been added to a 2d stamp to make up the postage to 3d etc. Len.
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Hi Len,

Yes, but I think the confusion which has arisen is that the original query
was regarding a letter with a 2 1/2d blue stamp. The blue stamp depicted in the earlier posting was a 1d stamp, which was indeed a 1950/51 issue.

1948 - 1949 does not appear to have any definitive stamp issues (like
the one in question), but several commemorative issues. Its most likely
that any existing definitives would have been used up by 1948, but you
can't entirely rule out the possibility that someone had on old 2 1/2d stamp lurking in the corner of their wallet and used it in the mid 1950s.
Indeed the point you make about adding additional stamps is a very valid one, and in theory at least, these and earlier stamps could have been used right up until decimalisation.

My guess is that as it originates from a company it would almost certainly be 1940 to 1947.

Kind regards

Dave
 
beamish said:
Len, You could be right. Its very difficult to find precise info.

Found this:


1952 V1Queen Elizabeth 11
Sc293 SG516
1d blue



1951 King George V1
Sc281 SG504
1d light blue
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Hi ,

Although there was no First and Second Class postage in those days,
there were lower rates which could be paid for sending postcards,
unsealed envelopes (you wouldn't do it today would you!!) which
people tended to use for greetings cards, and also a lower rate for
printed matter like newspapers. Of course, unlike today, stamps were
used for parcels,and you sometimes saw half the package covered with
a variety of different stamps to make the price up.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Many thanks guys
nowi can beggin my search for the name person on the envelope
for that period i am just wondering wether or not auntie ivy
was an secreterial agent for the pearl assurance company during that period was pearl assurance company based in brum aroud those years
many thanks bet wishes astonian ,;
 
I think you will find that postage labels (stamps) remain valid for use virtually for ever. £ s d stamps, regardless of the monarch on the stamp, remained valid up until the advent of decimal coinage. All stamps that have been issued during the reign of QE II are still valid for use.

I have in my possesion an envelope posted in Kings Norton, on it are the stamps of George V, Edward VIII and George VI, the postmark is the day George VI was crowned.

It would be very difficult to date an envelope without a postmark, the monarch on the stamp is not a guide to age.

Barrie.
 
Are you guys interested in stamp collecting in any way? if so should we not have a topical thread going?
ANY comments?
 
HI BARON
I USED TO HAVE A VERY LARGE COLLECTION OF STAMPS AND ALBUNS
I HAD A LOAD OF THE STANLEYS CATOLOGUES AS WELL,BUT AFEW YEARS AGO I STOPPED AND SOLD THEM TO ANOTHER COLLECTOR
MY RESON FOR ASKING WAS BECAUSE I FOUND THESE AT MY AUNTY IVY JELFS COFFEE SHOP AMONG THE RUMBLE OF RUINS WHEN THEY DEMOLISHED HER SHOP
About four YEARS AGO AS YOU KNOW ALL THE JELFS OWNED THERE BUSINESSS
BUT IVY WAS A SECRETARY IN HER PROFFESSION ONLY AND WHILST INVESTERGATING CERTAIN INFO;; I CAME ACROSS THIS ENVELOPE WITH THESE STAMPS ON AND THE ADDRESS WAS TYPED ON MR H.R. PITTS 53 PROMIARD CHELTHAM AND I THOUGHT I WOULD PERSERVE AND DO A LOOK UP TO FIND OUT WHOM MR PITT WAS AND ANY CONNECTIONS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY FAMILY MEMBERS STILL ALIVE TODAY BUT IT ALSO PROVES MY CASE THE JELFS DID OWN THE LAND ,ALSO ON THE LAND THERE WAS BUSSINESS RECEIPTS AND INVOICES FOR BURMANS METALS DATING 1900,S 47,AND BEFORE THAT WAS 897 TYBURN RD ERDINGTON WICH WAS AJOINING 901 TYBURN RD AND THAT WAS GEORGE JELF PROPERT AS WELL IT WAS USED AS A WARE HOUSE FOR ALL THERE PROVISIONS DURING THE COMING DECADES ,BUT HE SOLD IT TO THE BURMANS FOR THERE FACTORY BUT KEPT THE COFFEE SHOP 901 TYBURN RD ON THE CORNER OF HOLLY LANE WHERE HE ALSO LIVED SO THATS WHY I WAS TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE YEARS OF THE STAMPS , I DON,T KNOW WETHER BARRIE COLLECTS STAMPS OF INTREST OR IF ANY OTHER MEMBER ON THE FORUM MAY BE INTRESTED
BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ;;
 
barrie said:
I think you will find that postage labels (stamps) remain valid for use virtually for ever. £ s d stamps, regardless of the monarch on the stamp, remained valid up until the advent of decimal coinage. All stamps that have been issued during the reign of QE II are still valid for use.



Barrie.
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Hi Barrie

I think in this case as its a Life Assurance Company, they would have
prestamped the envelope for a prospective customer, and sent it to them with their quotation. Quite a lot of companies did this rather than use the business reply service. This would normally mean that the stamps would be the current issue. It would tie it down further still if the stamp on
the envelope were the light ultramarine issue of 1941/2.

As a lad I sent myself a letter with a bisected 4d stamp on it, and on another occasion posting a letter with the correct postage, and also
a number of Monaco pictorial stamps on the envelope. Both duly arrived back with the stamps hand cancelled! I've still got these today.

Could you confirm that you can still use pre decimal QE11 stamps for
their decimal equivalent value? I thought they had been demonetized.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Could you confirm that you can still use pre decimal QE11 stamps for
their decimal equivalent value? I thought they had been demonetized.

Kind regards

Dave


My error there Dave. I meant decimal value stamps. Sorry.

Barrie.
 
hi guys
if you say they prepaid an evelope and sent it to customers and the stamp was printed years before hand how would it have been on the tyburn rd all these years from the thirtys and it was written on the envelope rh pitt 53 promeade cheltham which shoid have been posted back by mr pitt when he lived in cheltham may be aunty ivy was a secretary for the company i beleive mandy s mom or auntie was related to ivy whom would have know miss ivy in early years of growing up and that her profession was a secretary may be she would know whom she worked for , i would love to know the mstry of this envelope may be i,ll never find out but to me its proves grad father and the jelfs owned these two properts 897 and 901 and another mystry i would like to know why was aunty ivy,s ashes smuggled into st barabus church and
secretly burried her ashes into her mother and fathers grave there why keep it a secret did one have to pay for such a thing to be done if so how much did it cost one member told me firstly she was burried in st marys but they don,t do it then it came to light by a telephone conversation thats what theydid and to say its saved expenses but when she died with 89,ooo pounds why where did her funeral arrangements money o ?
any way getting back to the stamps barrie and len thanks for establishing the dates i still have the envelope i just might try sending this letter in the post and try and see what becomes of it
best wishes astonian ,;;
 
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