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King Edwards Grammar School Aston 1883

My father Roy GEBHARD attended there

Briefly my dad born 1931 was evacuated during the war to Ironville which sits on the Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire border

Whilst there he sat what must have been the 11+ or it’s equivalent and passed with flying colours

He won a scholarship and went to King Edwards Aston , presumably commencing in 1941 or 1942

He absolutely loathed it, coming from rather humble beginnings (born Aston moved to the then brand new estate in Kinsgstanding in around the mid 1930’s) in his eyes the other pupils were “posh “ (my grandparents struggled to even afford buy to buy his uniform)

But to him what was more of a major problem was that Rugby was the game and he was a football fanatic!

Hence he used to wag off a lot!

All the best.

Paul GEBHARD
 
I believe this photo (that has been passed down in my family) probably shows the evacuation of about half of the boys in the school to Ashby-de-la-Zouch as reported in the press in November 1939. Some of the boys are wearing the school cap and tie.

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I don't think this is a group from KE Aston. The caps that are visible are definitely not from the school that I went to from 1950-58
 
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I don't think this is a group from KE Aston. The caps that are visible are definitely not from the school that I went to from 1950-58
Welcome to the forum Jim. Your expert knowledge of the school will be useful here.
Thanks for casting doubt on my description of the photo in post 3. On closer inspection, I agree that the caps do look different to my Aston cap from the 1960s. However, I am sure that the photo includes my uncle who was born in 1922 and was awarded the Higher School Certificate at Aston in 1940. I know he was evacuated to Ashy-de-la-Zouch as he appears there on the 1939 Register. He was an outstanding sportsman being the school's Senior Champion in Athletics in 1938 and 1939. So maybe the photo relates to some sporting excursion with boys from other schools. I attach a photo of him in the school swimming team.
 

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Welcome to the forum Jim. Your expert knowledge of the school will be useful here.
Thanks for casting doubt on my description of the photo in post 3. On closer inspection, I agree that the caps do look different to my Aston cap from the 1960s. However, I am sure that the photo includes my uncle who was born in 1922 and was awarded the Higher School Certificate at Aston in 1940. I know he was evacuated to Ashy-de-la-Zouch as he appears there on the 1939 Register. He was an outstanding sportsman being the school's Senior Champion in Athletics in 1938 and 1939. So maybe the photo relates to some sporting excursion with boys from other schools. I attach a photo of him in the school swimming team.
Thanks, I will do what I can to help. May I ask the (real) names of you brother and you?
 
The swimming team has to be no earlier than 1937 because it includes 'new' headmaster L G Brandon who was appointed January 1937.
 
I was at KEGSA from 1960-67, before moving on to Reading Uni. Everything that's been said in these posts brings back memories - some good - some bad. It was still a time when you (I) remained pretty fearful about your behaviour. Was that a good thing? I remember - just a few - Sam Doble (French teacher) whose neck wound was a legacy from being part of the wartime resistance, (we thought), Slasher Lazenby - Geography - ironically the initiator of school glee clubs. A.J. Cooke who rejected me from the school choir because I preferred to go to Scouts after school on Mondays instead of staying for choir practice. A youngish teacher of French, Townshend, who took us through sixth form - we read Saint Exuperey and he ignited my decision to read French at Uni. 'A level' Latin with a group of four with the deputy head! Monthly report cards to be signed by parents! Rugby at Hawthorn Road. Football (and chips) at lunchtime in Aston Park. Cross country races across the city. Woodwork in the cellar. Lunches (ugh!) in a different part of the cellar. Biology and Sixth form common room in the terrapin in the playground. New building opening halfway through my time there. Len Brandon as H.T. throughout. A term away at the school's premises (Longdon Hall) between Stafford and Lichfield (???) feeding pigs and learning in a Nissan hut.

Jumpers for goal posts!

Nearly 60 years on, these memories are still fresh - what an influence it had on our lives!
 
I can't see myself and I don't recognise a soul on the above photo, but I was definitely awarded the english prize on that night.
 
Thank you Vivienne for creating this thread. Rather a shame that no-one has posted for three years. It was certainly a good school in my day but I am glad to see that teaching methods have improved a lot since the 1960s. I was the 1964 intake. I see that the school is now almost fortified to ensure safety. Rather a sad reflection on modern society. We were free to go out at lunchtime and make our own way home from the sports grounds (Hawthorn Road or Trinity Road). We flew our model aircraft in Aston Park on nice days. Balsa wood from the Model Mecca shop.
The science building had just opened (including the gym, main hall, wood and metalwork shops and kitchens. Mrs Cook the cook (yes, really) gave us sausages, chips and pies as she saw no point in serving healthy salads to go in the bin.
We ran round to the Victoria Road Baths (long gone I think) swam and came back in under 40 minutes with Mr Jessop. As sixth formers we could go on our own to Newton Road Pool, now itself under threat.
We saw Birmingham City Transport become West Midlands Passenger Transport and the newspaper headlines announcing the Aberfan disaster.
I’d love to see a posting from anyone else that remembers the school from 1964 to 1971. I know they lost a headmaster tragically a year or two ago but they do seem to be maintaining a high performance level.
I too joined in 1964, Midland Red. I think I was in class 1A under Mr (Joe) White. I vaguely remember the name Parkinson as sharing the General Certificate Prize with me and others in 1969. Other form masters I recall having were Mr Collins, Mr Toogood, (Gunga) Ingham, (Taffy) Thomas and Brian Roberts. I certainly remember games/gym/swimming master Harry Jessop, who was one of the nicest guys I've ever met.
 
I too joined in 1964, Midland Red. I think I was in class 1A under Mr (Joe) White. I vaguely remember the name Parkinson as sharing the General Certificate Prize with me and others in 1969. Other form masters I recall having were Mr Collins, Mr Toogood, (Gunga) Ingham, (Taffy) Thomas and Brian Roberts. I certainly remember games/gym/swimming master Harry Jessop, who was one of the nicest guys I've ever met.
Moor End Lad, two of the masters you recall are in this First XV photo from 1965-6
 

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Twenty years on when I was there it still looked exactly like in the 1963 pictures, bar fewer houses to the left of the new building.

It was nice to read about Harry Jessop's rugby exploits. He was a gentleman - always kind to me and called me by my first name. But he did have this knack of being there at the bottom of the staircase near the tuck shop window, to greet me with 'collar and tie Rick, collar and tie'.

From what I remember, most of the adjoining houses next to the school buildings were almost derelict and served as smoking dens.

They did. We'd sit upstairs on mostly bare rafters and chain-smoke through lunch. One afternoon in about 1984 I may have accidentally set fire to a mattress, causing half the house to go up.

There is an annual reunion for the class of 1980 that has been going on since 1987, on the last Saturday before Christmas Eve in The Yenton.
 
March 5th 2025 would have been my father, Norman Gabriel Ballinger’s Eleventy-first birthday, which as we all know, would have been a very good age for a hobbit, had he been able to reach it.

He had been rereading The Lord of the Rings just before his hospital admission, and his copy was found on the table by his empty armchair, after he died, with the bookmark halfway through the ‘The Fellowship of the Ring.’

Norman was brought up in Birmingham and even went briefly to the same school that Tolkien had attended. King Edward’s Grammar School in Edgbaston. Both were scholarship boys, but Norman was a pupil twenty-three years after Tolkien, and presumably a whole generation of young and inspirational young teachers had been wiped out in the Great War, between their respective school years, leaving the school sadly depleted of talent.

Ironically, in Norman’s time at King Edwards, a field gun with a cork in the barrel had been placed in the school quadrangle, and Norman remembers that as kids, they played and clambered all over it, but it was only when the army returned to remove it that they found that there was still a live round in the barrel! So very nearly a group of scholars would have joined the school’s fallen teaching staff!

Norman hated his time at King Edwards, describing it as a gloomy old building staffed by elderly teachers in gowns that were green with age. He always said that he preferred his raggedy-arsed playmates from the terraced two-up two-down houses of Aston, and that it was a bitter blow when he passed for the grammar school and joined the ranks of the toffee-nosed grammar school kids, who wore very distinctive red and gold school caps, marking them out as privileged.

He bitterly recalled receiving a detention for not wearing this hated school cap when he was caught by one of the masters pushing a barrowload of coal home after school to help his mother.

Unlike Tolkien who left King Edward’s at the age of nineteen, Norman’s parents received a letter at the end of his second year, stating his progress was not good enough for a scholarship boy and so he was rapidly propelled into adulthood at fourteen years of age, starting his first job at Veritys in Plume St, Aston, standing all day at an assembly bench making overhead fans destined for the Indian Raj.

Whilst a series of factory jobs followed, Norman was able to qualify in electrical engineering by attending night classes at the Central Technical College and finally landed a job at the Post Office Telecommunications section, which not only promised paid holidays and sick leave, but was the first industrial premises that he had worked in that provided toilet paper in its lavatories! Thereafter he spent 42 years working for the post office and doubtlessly revelling in that luxury!

One of the consequences of being ejected from an educational system where he had to touch his cap to greet his teachers, into a factory world, where a penny a week was deducted from your pay to pay for the toilets to be cleaned (the Forward Electrical Company) was that Norman developed a strong sense of social justice and championing of the underdog. He was briefly secretary of the Birmingham branch of the Communist party, until he used to recall wryly, he was almost lynched trying to sell The Daily Worker outside Veritys following the Molotov-Ribbentrop Non- Aggression Pact in August 1939! Thereafter, he eschewed party membership and following any prescribed political line preferring to follow his own leftish furrow, still heavily influenced by his Christian upbringing around Aston Church and Dyson Hall.

The main factor however in curbing his political discussions and excursions out of Birmingham with his Cycle Touring Association mates, was that in 1944 he met my mother, as she was calibrating measuring instruments for the Ministry of Supply at Standard Telephones and Cables in Leicester. He was meant to be inspecting her work, but had broken his glasses and couldn’t see a thing. True love was indeed blind, and so after a short engagement marriage followed. And so having spent his childhood, sleeping behind a curtain in the front parlour of the family house in Aston, Norman finally had a bedroom to share with his new bride.

Thereafter, he was committed to trying to make a better life for his wife and two children, dutifully gardening under her supervision, when he would have preferred to be reading, and watching her favourite television programmes rather than rugby and football matches…

When he retired, he pondered the 42 years spent at the post office, he opined ‘I may have got into a bit of a rut!’

To be fair, he really enjoyed the company of his work colleagues, and an admission to hospital near the end of his life had him touring the wards recognising colleagues, reminiscing, and joking and joshing encouragingly.

Norman also had the unerring skill of putting authority figures in a state of unease simply by calling them ‘Sir!’ leaving them unsure whether this deference was real or designed to be prickly. It was always the latter! It came from a man who had schooled me early about ‘Casual Racism’ long before Black Lives matter. A man, whose philosophy about child rearing that the most important gift you can bestow on children is your undivided attention. and a man who also had a quirky way of lifting his hat and saying, ‘Good Morning Dog!’ when he met a canine friend on his walks, leaving the dog looking a little confused!

The scholarship boy who had not made ‘sufficient progress’ may not have joined the ranks of the great and distinguished, but he was a great dad and a role model, and he would have enjoyed an Eleventy-first birthday party, so today we are raising a glass in his memory!
 
hello forest freda..what a fascinating read about your dad..easy to see why you are so proud of him...i would also like to say happy birthday to him today.... :)

lyn
 
hello forest freda..what a fascinating read about your dad..easy to see why you are so proud of him...i would also like to say happy birthday to him today.... :)

lyn
Thank you Lyn, I didn't say enough at his funeral so promised I would do something for his 111st. He always referred to my mum as 'Precious' which was a little wicked of him, as had she read The Lord of the Rings she would have crowned him!
 
My father Roy GEBHARD attended there

Briefly my dad born 1931 was evacuated during the war to Ironville which sits on the Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire border

Whilst there he sat what must have been the 11+ or it’s equivalent and passed with flying colours

He won a scholarship and went to King Edwards Aston , presumably commencing in 1941 or 1942

He absolutely loathed it, coming from rather humble beginnings (born Aston moved to the then brand new estate in Kinsgstanding in around the mid 1930’s) in his eyes the other pupils were “posh “ (my grandparents struggled to even afford buy to buy his uniform)

But to him what was more of a major problem was that Rugby was the game and he was a football fanatic!

Hence he used to wag off a lot!

All the best.

Paul GEBHARD
Well Paul, my dad Norman was also a scholarship boy about 15 years earlier than your dad, and prefered the company of his ragged-arsed Aston mates from his Charles Arthur St school: Fatty Furnace, Jimmy Craythorne, Sidney Radford and Joey Bandage and the lovely Vera White who was 'an attractive girl with short skirts' He said 'We shouted obscenities at the toffee-nosed grammar school kids, so it was a bitter blow when I passed for the grammar school myself!' He hated it too. Apparently they had to go to school Saturday mornings and had Thursday afternoons for sport. He too skivved off. He got a detention as a master caught him outside school pushing a barrow load of coal home for his mum. Horror he was not wearing his much hated Grammar School cap. (red and gold and very distinctive-he'd put his ordinary cap on while he was on home ground) He too was a football fan. His brother in law's dad had played for Villa until injury ended his (amateur as he had a tailoring business to support himself) career
 
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