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Key Hill Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions

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Hi Wendy & Brian,
I did some look-ups recently at BMSGH, but I've made a mistake with one of them, I've written P4 in Warstone for Robert Inwood who died in 1875, but there isn't a P4 is there!! His relative Eliza is P1868 (died 1897) so I should have realised at the time that the number was wrong. My 2xGt Grandmother married him, lived with another man and then marrried my 2xGt Grandfather bigamously!! She's in Warstone (Selina Yapp) but her grave was forfeit and was re-used, then the stone was buried.

There must be some wonderful stories buried along with the "residents"!!

rosie.
 
Hi Wendy
I would love to know if there are any for Wilstrop or Willstrop in the list.
Thanks for the offer.
Best wishes
Penny
 
Does the following help?
1874
Rose Elizabeth WILLSTROP aged less than 3 months
Register no: 17648
Warstone Lane cemetery
1875
Rosanna WILSTROP aged 84
Register no: 18303
Warstone Lane cemetery
1876
Sarah WILSTROP aged 52
Register no: 20382
Warstone Lane cemetery
1883
Letitia WILLSTROP aged 58
Register no: 32326
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1898
Emma WILLSTROP aged 79
Register no: 54344
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1899
John WILLSTROP aged 74
Register no: 55403
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1900
Thomas WILLSTROP aged 58
Register no: 56222
Warstone Lane cemetery
1913
John WILLSTROP aged 60
Register no: 70347
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1929
Albert G WILLSTROP aged 47
Register no: 92021
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1932
Martha E WILLSTROP aged 76
Register no: 91898
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1937
Ann WILLSTROP aged 80
Register no: 94511
No. in grave: 5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1939
Amelia WILLSTROP aged 74
Register no: 95128
No. in grave:5
Warstone Lane cemetery
1874
Betsy WILLSTROP aged 60
Register no: 23002
Key Hill cemetery
1894
Henry WILLSTROP aged 80
Register no: 38970
Key Hill Cemetary
1931
Arthur George WILLSTROP aged 64
Register no: 54781
No. in grave: 2
Key Hill cemetery
 
Hi Rosie, you not actually wrong - I met a chap last Sunday in KH looking for a Westley - sent him to Colin @ the Pen Room, and later met him again in WL looking for 2 graves in P4 - which he found! Unsure if they are related to Westly Richards, Gunsmiths, but are thinks they are related to Westly the Brum Map maker.

AS you are aware, the "Registers"for WL are actually the Cah Books, they are specifically to record Costs & Payments . Quite often on a page of 30 Burials - only 4 may have a grave number showing!! There would, originally, have been other Registers cross referencing everything - by date, name, grave number, etc. Sadly - there wherabouts is unknown - This is why so much data at WL is incomplete.

What we have discovered is that in the early days of operation, each Section was divided into 4 'Segments' P1, P2, P3, P4 - At the time, that was probably enough info, as the funerals would be current, but over time, becomes meaningless!
Ralph Heaton of the Mint is listed like this- It took a lot of cross searching to find his actual Grave Number.

The known graves in P4 are behind the mint, on the left facing downhill, Pemberton st side, just where there is a 'step' in the level of graves.
If you follow the dirt path down towards the large 'Compost heap' - you will see the dsudden drop in grave levels - like a min cliff, on your right - have a good search!

If you find the grave, cross referance to one with a number on and let me know, so we can update the BMSGH data.
Also we often find some names on a memorial listed with grave numbers, and others on the same memorial shown as "No grave number showing" in the Registers!

You may find them all in P1868 - it's in the right area - or they could be separate graves near each other - The Westley's had 1 grave between them!

Brian
 
WILLSTROP
1959 P 1406 105294 Stillborn
Albert G 1929 C 257 92021 5 MI
Amelia 1939 T 1274 95128 5
Ann 1937 T 1274 94511 5
Emma 1898 T 1274 54344 5
John 1899 T 1274 55403 5
John 1913 C 257 70347 5 MI
Letitia 1883 T 1274 32326 5
Martha E 1932 C 257 91898 5 MI
Rose Elizabeth 1874 H 1239 17648
Thomas 1900 D 1297 56222

Ladylinda postede whilst I was typing Rosie's reply! - She's too quick for me!
 
WILLSTROP
Arthur George 1931 O 9 54781 2
Betsy 1874 L 29 (Vault) 23002
Henry 1894 S 2 38970

These are in Key Hill - No Wilstrop's there.

Brian
 
Hello Penny hope this helps.

Arthur George Wilstrop grave no 9 section O. In loving memory of Arthur George Wilstrop who died 12th July 1891 aged 14. Headstone.

Betsy Wilstrop buried 1874 grave no 29 section L vault.

Henry Wilstrop buried 1894 section S grave no 2.

Sorry posted after you Brian.
 
Brian could I please ask you to look in your book for Warston lane Cemetry for a child buried there between 1931-1941 The name could be Valerie Bowen or maybe a still born birth. Thank you.
 
Hi Brian,
Thanks for that, I know where you mean. I haven't been to WL since I did the look-up, on the map the other one seems to be just off the path so I will have a look next time. I should have checked whether it was a public one or not.
rosie.
 
Hi Rosie,
Here are all the Inwoods - mostly in same area but differant Graves?
Eliza 1878 C 220 23562 5
Eliza 1897 P 1868 51928
Fredk Edward 1878 P 1845 24102
Jane 1884 P 1361 34078
Robert 1875 P 4 18754

There is a chance Robert & Eliza are in the same one - It's worth a look. although none are shown as MI?, you may find Headstones in place still!
The 1878 Eliza is with 2 Pooles', a White & a Holliday?
 
Hi Brian,
The Eliza with 2 Pooles would probably be his "other" wife, with her parents as that was her maiden name. He had a sister Eliza too, she didn't marry as far as I know .
I'm not sure about the others though, but with their History anything is possible!! I'll have a look on FMP and they might be related. Selina's daughter Selina Dianna Inwood is in a public in Key Hill, E45, by the wall.
rosie
 
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Hi again Brian,
I've just had a quick look on FMP and both Jane and Frederick Edward were under the age of one.
rosie.
 
Hi Brian & Wendy

Thank you both very much for this. Back in about 1971 when I was still at a very early stage of my family tree I visited Birmingham very briefly and was sure that I had seen the grave of Betsy but when I have been back to Birmingham I have never been able to find any Willstrops there. I am sure too that I saw one for Rosanna Willstrop somewhere - she was my 3xgreat grandmother. Rosanna's husband, Thomas Willstrop, is buried with two of their daughters in St Paul's Churchyard. I shall have to visit again!

I am so pleased!

Penny
 
Wendy said:
Hello Penny hope this helps.

Arthur George Wilstrop grave no 9 section O. In loving memory of Arthur George Wilstrop who died 12th July 1891 aged 14. Headstone.

Hello Wendy/Brian again
Just been checking my tree against the information you and Brian have given me and something is strange! I only have one Arthur George Willstrop in my tree and he married and then died in Birmingham in 1931 aged 64. If this Arthur George was 14 and died in 1891 he was born 1877. I do have a George Willstrop born in London in 1876 but he died in 1923 in Portsmouth! There must be an answer :) I shall just have to think harder.
Penny
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Hi Penny, it's such an unusual name, I'm sure they are all distant relatives.
There are almost no headstone now in St Pauls - been 'tidied up' but they have got records - check online for their website.
Unsure of betsey has a headstone - will look on Tuesday when I go through KH.

Brian
 
Thank you Brian for looking for me I really appreciate it.My brother though she was at Warstone lane but mom had said she was put in a coffin with some one else. Thanks anyway you do a really good job. Dotti
 
I wendy im wondering if you could look something up for me, im looking for my Great Grandfather William Astle 1880- June1949 Death place and also my Great Grandmother Mary Astle 1880-Sept1948. Ive tried Witton and they have come back with no findings, as they lived in Aston i thought i would give you a try, Thanking You Diana Williams Ex Astle
 
Hi Brian
sorry I did try to reply to thank you just as the site disappeared for a while. Great to have the site back and appreciate the suggestions.
They are all definitely related :)
Penny
 
Hi Penny,
It's good to be back on air = Thank god some people understand the mechanics of these machines!
Just hope we managed to find some twigs for your tree, even if they aren't the branch you were looking for - makes it all a bit bushier though!
Brian
 
Hi Brian
Yes, really good to have the forum back.

I keep thinking I have found most of my twigs and then another one pops up!

Cheers
Penny
 
Hello Wendy
I am very new to this so hope this is ok. Would you please look to see if there is any record at Key Hill, of Jane Louisa Baggallay who died in 1913, or her husband John Baggallay who died in 1916.
Thank you
Sue
 
Hello Sue welcome to the forum. I have checked Key Hill cemetery records and they are not interred there.

There is only one person buried with a name close to Baggallay. Hugo Baggaley buried 1864 in vault 22. I have also checked Warstone Lane they are not recorded there either.
 
Hi Wendy, thankyou for your offer, not sure if weve been intouch before but here is what im looking for if you can help ?
I have under the heading BIRMINGHAM UNIVERSITY John Charles 1951 K 34 100050 what type of grave would this be and would there be an inscription ?
many thanks Anita
 
I have checked the memorial inscriptions for Key Hill cemetery and there is a Parks family in grave 34 section K. Is Charles the surname of John. Can you tell me where the information is from. I assume 100050 is the register number.
 
Hi Anita,
K 34 in key hill has 3 Parkes in it -
K 34 - In affectionate memory of Jane the beloved wife of John PARKES who departed this life January 10th 1880 in the 42nd year of her age. Also of the above John PARKES who died December 26th 1921 in the 87th year of his age. "In thee O Lord I put my trust." Also Ann Louisa PARKES second wife of the above who died August 8th 1939 aged 75 years. "Until the day dawn and the shadows flee away." Notes: - 6' headstone with side pillars base kerbs and flat stone. Extant memorial. 62" headstone, laid down. Single tier base

100050 is a Warstone Lane Burial Number

SHUTTLEWORTH - John Charles 1951 K 34 100050. He is not shown as a Birmingham University burial.
Birmingham University burials are those bodies used for medical research, which are gioven to students at start of term (1 body per 2 students), but which must be returned - with all bits and pieces - for a Christian burial before end of term exams.

John Charles Shuttleworth is not shown as one of these. He would appear to be someone who died with little or no money, and possibly no known relatives.
The Council reopened the Public vaults around the side of the catacombs and 'topped them up' with the cheaper (and less profitable) burials, during the 1950's & 1960's. There is a memorial but it will be those original occupants from the early 1900-1920's who had paid extra to have their name on the memorial - Leslam has posted pics of these under Warstone Lane Catacombs / vaults somewhere.

Hope this helps.

Brian
 
Thankyou Brian, John Charles would of been an uncle, he died at about 5 months,
My Mothers Brother, I still have all the receipts etc for his funeral/coffin . The family wasnt wealthy but i wondered if there was an inscription.

thanks again anita
 
Here is the link to the Public graves thread

Adding the K34 memorial and an overview (labelled) view of I and K section slabs. Click a thumbnail to see a larger version.

WL-I-and-K-slabs-numbered.JPG V-34-K~0.jpg
 
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