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Key Hill Cemetery - Birmingham in Bloom

Brian fantastic work, news and finds. As you say more luck than Time Team well done! As Lyn says you all deserve this a bonus for all your hard work. I can't wait to see the flower bed.
See you tomorrow at the Birmingham Lives History Fair....to do me bit!
 
sistersue61 said:
Brian, puts a new angle on pushing up the daisies lol
Seriously, I think it's a great thing to do and the finds as well make it a really big issue - hope it is going to get some media coverage for you.
I have never been to Key Hill, none of our families lived that side of town, but must put it on the list of places to visit, really need a few weeks off to se them all.
Good luck with the rest of the work, keep us posted if you aren't too exhausted!!
Sue
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hi sue..i would dearly love to find just one grave belonging to any of my rellies....about 4 years back before i started researching my family history i did take a little walk round key hill cem and im sure i saw a large grave for the name harrington but i cant even rememer the names on it now...some time back wendy very kindly looked for the wood family but could not find any but i really must try to find some time to hunt out the harrington one...trouble is ive forgotton where abouts it was...prob have to take a packed lunch with me...:D
 
Hi Lyn

Here are KH Harringtons - hope some may be yours - pop in some time, we have a soft spot for you!!!!!!!!

Surname Forenames Year Section Ref No in Plot Grave


HARRINGTON
1945 T9 57883Female infant
Eliza 1896
S 13 39926
Henry 1879
G 9 (Vault) 27092
Jane 1840
E 33 1184
John 1861
B 54 16833
John Neville 1941
T 8 57211
Martha 1869
L 27 (Vault) 20831
Mary 1861
B 57 16228
Matilda 1878
L 7 (Vault) 25621
Richard 1878
L 9 (Vault) 25084
Rosamond 1841
E 25 1415
Theresa Jane 1861
D 148 16639
Thomas 1847
H 34 5493
William 1870
L 12 (Vault) 20934


Brian
 
Nice one Pol...:D:D

I hope one of the Harringtons is Lyn's we need her support.:)
 
omg...straight away with a quick look at that list wend i know i have a martha and henry harrington...husband and wife..could just be coinsidence though..just going to get me notes out for some dates....thanks wend...
 
wend its not my martha harrington as she was still alive in 1911 aged 65....i am just going to look at my henry harringtons now...all four of them in a straight line...lolalso wend the female harrington infant who died in 1945...would you have a name for her...

lyn
 
Sorry Lyn there is no name for the infant it may have been a still birth...sorry!
 
oh shucks...thats not any of my henry harringtons either wend...henry the 1st died in 1869 .i have henry the 2nd and 3rd on the 1881 census and dads dad died around 1949 ish...i will check the other names on the list but none spring to mind at the mind...

thanks everso wend will get back to you...

lyn
 
I'm soooo jealous sitting here would love to be helping with the dig and stuff... went to Key Hill with Wendy exactly four years ago when I was over in 2007. You have done so much cleaning up of the place since then , so would love to came again if I can save my pennies sometime.

Lyn didn't know you had 'Wood's ' in your tree, we could have a connection with the name as mine lived in the area too.

Polly not sure how much of our 'Deakin' family you have researched, but if your looking for your 'Thomas aged 4' in 1861... James (Sam and Tom's Dad) has been miss transcribed as Francis Deakin. When looking at the original I can see how it happened unless you knew like us that it should be James.

Brian sorry to have gone a little off topic... didn't mean to high-jack your thread. Mind some of these family members could well be residents at Key Hill :). Keep up the good work folks it's well appreciated even 12000 miles away.
 
oops sorry bri i thought it was wendy who had posted the harrington list for me...

thanks bri but no luck so far....

lyn
 
hi chris...yes wood was our moms maiden name....when you have time maybe you could im me with a couple of names to see if we have any connection with the the woods....i would have expected to see some at key hill as they lived over that way but like i said wendy could find none some time back...

lyn:)
 
He won't mind Lyn we work together. Have you looked for any other Brum family that may be buried in Key Hill or Warstone Lane.

I love these posts one day we will all find we are related...lol
 
Here are the Harringtons in Warstone Lane

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HARRINGTON​
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Amelia 1856 F 545 4536 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Amos 1863 E 176 11769 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Amos 1864 None 12155 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Clara 1862 E 248 10866 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Edgar 1888 O 1150 39719 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Edward Mee 1879 I 1928 26039 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Edwin 1861 E 326 9790 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Eliza Ann 1856 C 94 4578 1 MI​

HARRINGTON​
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Elizabeth 1856 F 476 4415 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Elizabeth Emily 1855 C 305 4265 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Emma 1898 I 1883 53889 4 ​

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HARRINGTON​
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Jacqueline 1945 P 1972 97815 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Jane Priscilla 1868 H 1244 13670 2 MI ​

HARRINGTON​
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John 1853 F 463 2186 ​

HARRINGTON​
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John Alfred 1876 G 979 21526 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Reginald Mee 1879 I 1883 25990 4 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Robert 1889 H 1244 40400 2 MI ​

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HARRINGTON​
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Roger 1948 K 30 98718a ​

HARRINGTON​
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Sophia 1867 H 1256 13233 8 ​

HARRINGTON​
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Thomas 1871 H 1157 14854 ​

HARRINGTON Thomas 1885 H 1225 35578
 
Wendy said:
He won't mind Lyn we work together. Have you looked for any other Brum family that may be buried in Key Hill or Warstone Lane.

I love these posts one day we will all find we are related...lol
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lol wend..that would not surprise me....so far ive only looked for the harringtons and woods...im also looking for downes and moseleys...thanks for the warstone lane list...i will go through the names...

lyn
 
Hy Lyn, Sorry the Kh ones are not yours - have you thought about adoption? They couild be yours than!

"Is this soft spot big and round and needs digging?????:D:D" - And I thought I was being so subtle!
 
morning bri....dont think me knees would take the digging these days...:D i would be ok at planting though....to be honest i really must pay you a visit soon...

ive not checked out all the names yet on the key hill and warstone lane lists..hoping to fine time to do that today...

lyn
 
Key Hill Brian said:
View attachment 68566 The days 'finds' - ceramics (part mug?), Clay pipe bowl with separate stem, herbal remedy paste pot for almost every ailment, 2 small glass bottles marked London one side & Judson t'other.!

Research, sorry work continues on Monday, hopefully when 'mick the Dig' aka the man with the JCB arrives courtesy of Witon cemetery (fingers crssed - pretty please)
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Brian, I'm now curious about the Beadle's Hut and what a Beadle did at the cemetery. Was the hut a sort of shelter? And do you know if the Beadle(s) had a ceremonial role or more than that? Viv.
 
My great uncle was a Beadle at a church in the Staffs moorlands,his duties as a lay person were to assist the Vicar and see that the church and surrounds were in good order.
I believe the ones in Churchyards and cemeteries were equivelant to our security guards or night watchmen.
 
Ah yes, that makes sense Alberta. I expect they were needed to prevent bodies being stolen for research etc. in the 1800/1900s. Viv.
 
Key Hill Brian said:
View attachment 68566 The days 'finds' - ceramics (part mug?), Clay pipe bowl with separate stem, herbal remedy paste pot for almost every ailment, 2 small glass bottles marked London one side & Judson t'other.!

Research, sorry work continues on Monday, hopefully when 'mick the Dig' aka the man with the JCB arrives courtesy of Witon cemetery (fingers crssed - pretty please)
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The bottles may be 'gum' bottles. Here's one c1880 (a slightly different shape but still Judson's London). What did they need gum for? The mind boggles! Viv

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Hi Viviene,

Just got in from History fair, and my model soldiers club!

The Beadles were like Harry Secombe in Oliver Twist - Local Bouncer!
We know they had fancy overcoats and hats, and acted as a doorman/bouncer minding the nmain cemetery entrance. Presumably opening/closing gates, unlocking/locking up, security patrols (mostly people nicking the flowers and reselling them!)

We have a poor dark pic showing the hut, with a fany roof - like a gate security office at a warehouse. What sort of gum did Judsons do? glue sniffing stuff, or for sticking posters up with or sumat?

The bottles, pipe, ointment jar could be from almost any period, current with useage, or rubbish after it was demolished.

I haven't been there today, but imagine we have a nice outdoor Lido at the moment!

Brian
 
Hi Brian. Thanks for the Beadle info. On the bottles, I just had a poke around on google to see if I could find anything like your 2 bottles. I thought the shape was interesting. The 1880 example was the only thing I could find that even vaguely resembled yours. I can't find any info on "Judsons" though. So afraid I don't know much else. Better get your cozzie out for tomorrow, make good use of that Lido!! Viv.
 
Brian, I have been searching for "Glass Gum Bottles" and I have found some that refer to them as ink bottles. I have also found that Gum - often Gum Arabic is added to ink to thicken it.
Could they be old ink bottles?
 
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Sounds plausable Poll they could have been Mr Mannings as he was a prolific writer. Did you see the opaque glass with letters on, I would love to know where that came from, I think we will have to get time team in....lol
 
Brian showed me a small pot that had instructions about ointment on it - is that the one?:)
I can't remember exactly what it said so I can't search for info on it.

I have just remembered - there is a photo of Manning at his desk - are the bottles on it?
 
I have just had a look at the photo sadly not a bottle in sight!

Strange though as this time I studied the photo and realised the object I couldn't identify on his desk is the knob from the top draw in front of him. :)

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Wendy said:
I have just had a look at the photo sadly not a bottle in sight!

Strange though as this time I studied the photo and realised the object I couldn't identify on his desk is the knob from the top draw in front of him. :)
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No that's a rubber stamp Wend
 
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