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Jelf john

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON THE FOLLOWING
JOHN JELF , WHOM LIVED IN HANDSWORTH , AND A WALTER NEWTON FISHER, WHOM WAS AN APPOINTED TRUSTEE
FOR JOHN JELF .
HAS I AM NEW TO THIS SORT OF THING ,
I WAS WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT SOME-ONE COULD HELP ME ; OR POINT ME IN A DIRECTION
AS TO WHERE TO LOOK
THERE WAS A CAT LOG NO,REF MS 917/398 ,
DATED 1st AUGUST 1888
HAS I HAVE REASON TO BELEIVE THIS PERSON WAS RELATIVE TO MY MOTHER
BUT MY PROBLEM IS I DO NOT KNOW A NAME OF A ROAD TO PIN POINT
I WOULD BE VERY , VERY GRATEFUL IF SOME-ONE COULD GIVE ME A SUGGESTION
ON HOW TO CRACK THIS ONE ,
BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL , ASTONIAN
 
Re: JOHN JELF

Is this the bloke your after?

John Jelf
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Brinkley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Handsworth
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 204 Birchfield Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Solicitor

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Kate S. Edwards 26
Susannah Harris 42
Elizabeth Jelf 47
Henry T. Jelf 17
John Jelf 49
Lucy Mary Jelf 12
Richd.W. Jelf 18
T.S. Jelf 19
Mary Marriot 50
Sarah J. Pickering 24
 
Re: JOHN JELF

Here is Walter N Fisher (Chartered Accountant) he could be the one.

Walter N. Fisher
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lydia
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Edgbaston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 17 Ampton Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Chartered Accouantant

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Baker 34
Lucy Baxter 29
Ada N. Fisher 8
Betrice Fisher 11
Florance Fisher 13
Howard W. Fisher 12
Lydia Fisher 35
Walter N. Fisher 37
Louisa Nixon 22
Harriet Olovenshaw 24
 
Re: JOHN JELF

HI BAZ,MY OLD MATE.
I HOPE YOU ARE WELL ,AND I HOPE YOU ARE GETTING BETTER WEATHER
UP IN SCOTLAND ,THAN WE ARE GETTING DOWN HERE IN WORCESTERSHIRE
HIGH WINDS AND FLOODS , WHEN IT RAINS HERE ,IT DOES RAIN
JUST LIKE WALES ,
BAZZ YOU ARE A REAL STAR OF A FRIENDTO ME,
BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT THE JACK POT FOR ME ,
BY TRACING THE FAMILY OF JOHN JELF ,
AND ALL THE FAMILY NAMES ARE KNOWN TO ME IN THE FAMILY TREE
AND CORRESPOND,S WITH WHAT MY MOTHER TOLD ME ABOUT HER FAMILY .
RICHARD JELF , LATER BECAME A HIGH JUDGE IN CRIMMAL CASES,S
ALONG WITH WILLIAM EDWARD JELF , WHOM WAS ALSO AN HIGH COURT JUDGE ,
AND HE SENTENCED A WILLIAM YARNOLD , TO THE GALLOWS
TO BE HANGED ON 4th NOV; 1905 AT WORC; CROWN COURT
ON HIS FIRST CASE,
HENRY THOMAS ALSO BECAME A LEGAL PERSON IN THE B,HAM COURTS
ELIZABETH OWNED A THATCH COTTAGE AS WELL IN COW HONEY BOURNE,
WHICH NOW HIS JUST HONEYBOURNE EVERSHAM , AND THE RECORDS
SHOW ALL THE JELFS OWNING ALL LANDS AND COTTAGES IN HONEY BOURNE
I WENT DOWNTO HONENY BOURNE NOT SO LONG AGO ITS A VILLAGE
AND THAT HIS A VILLAGE,I WAS TOLD BY A PERSON IN THE LIBARY
THAT THEM DAYS IT CAME UNDER GLOUCESTERSHIRE
BUT AS TIME WENT ON THE BOUNDRIES HAVE CHANGED
STILLTHE FAMILY HIS REGISTERED IN THE ARCHIVES HISTORY OF THE LANDS THEY OWNED
ALSO YOU HAVE GIVEN ME A BONUS BY GIVING ME THE NAME OF THE TRUSTEE OF JOHN JELF
I HAVE REASON TO BELEIVE THAT JOHN IS THE SON OF EDWARD JELF THE HANG MAM OF WORC;
I HAVE RECEIVED SOME PICS OF THE CASE FROM MICHAEL GRUNDY A RETIRED CRIMMAL REPORTER
WHOM USED TO WORK FOR THE WOR; AND BERROW NEW,S IN WORC; LOCAL PAPER
HE SENT ME A PIC OF WILLIAM YARNOLD STANDING NEXT TO THE POLICE OFFICIER
IN THE DOCK BEING SENTENCE ,AND ALSO THE PIC OF THE HANGING CELL
AND THE GROUNDS .
WHAT PEOPLE OF ASTON DID NOT KNOW WAS WHOM THEY REALLY WAS ,
ALL THE FAMILY WAS CONNECTED TO THE COURTS IN SOME WAY ANOTHER
AND THE SIBBLING TODAY HOLD HIGH POSTIONS UP AND DOWNN THE COUNTRY
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY A COUSIN OF MOMS WHOM HIS INA HIGH GOVERMENT OFFICIER UP IN OXFORD
SAID THAT THERE WAS SOME SOCIETY WHERE THE GRAND FATHERS IN B,HAM WAS GRAND MASTERS
OF SOME ORGANISATION,
WE,LL BAZZ TIME HIS GETTING ON NOW ,AND I AM FEELING ABIT TIRED I,M GONNA GET A LITTLE SHUT EYE
BUT I MUST SAY THANKS AGAIN FOR HELPING ME ,
AND CERTAINLY GIVING ME INFO ON THE TRUSTEE,S NAME ,AND THE ADDRESS, BECAUSE THE NAME FISHER , I BELEIVE ARE STILL HERE IN B,HAM , THEY ARE A BIG BUSSINESS IN HARBORNE ,
LAND AND PROPERTY SHOPS AND HOUSES , AND HAMPTON RD IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THERE OFFICES , AND I DO KNOW ONE OR TWO FISHER FROM THE COMPANY ,
AND PUTTING TWO TOGETHER , I WOULD,NT BE SURPRIZED IT WAS THERE GRAND FATHER CONNECTION
AND I DO KNOW THAT 17 HAMPTON STILL EXCIST AND I THINK ITS THE GOLDMANS WHOM LIVED
HE HIS THE TOP MAN WHOM RUNS THE HEARTLANDS HOSPITAL, I ALSO KNOW HIM AND HIS WIFE PERSONALY
RIGHT BAZZ , I,VE GOT TO GO , I WILL EMAIL YOU TOMMORROW ,
THANKS A MILLION , BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ,
 
Re: JOHN JELF

Astonian I looked at the 1841 census and found John Jelf living in Bushley Worcestershire with his father shown as John Jelf, Farmer.The transcription of the 1881 census that Barrie looked up for you says Brinklley as Johns birthplace, but when you examine the writing it is actually Bushley. By 1851 the family had moved to Birmingham. Here they are.

Name: John Jelf
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Son
Father's name: John
Mother's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Bushley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham St George
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 370 New John Street West

Occupation: solicitors writing clertk

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members: Name Age
John Jelf 76 Retired Farmer
John Jelf 19
Mary A Jelf 49
Rose M Jelf 22
 
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