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James Clifford, Worcestershire Regiment

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Hello
I have just joined your site, and sent a message, as I had trouble finding how to create a 'New Thread', but I have just found it.
Anyway, I have just found a relative who was killed or rather died in France in 1915, and is buried over there. His number was 9545, Private in the 1st Bt. Worcestershire Regiment. His name: James Clifford.
What I am trying to find out is when he enlisted, or how I can find out for myself. Also, I cannot seem to find him on the 1891 Census.

I have his attestation Paper although rather in bad condition, and a form No:K 1380 (red Printed form)
I did notice on another topic that one of your members had sent in the same type of form, albeit, obviously, a different person.

Can anyone help?

Many thanks
Gillianr
 
Hi Gillianr and welcome

Is the man you are looking for James Edward Clifford of Stratford on Avon, and married to Florence? Do you know where he was born?
 
Hi Judy,
Thanks for your welcome.

My relative was James Thomas Clifford, born in Pirton Worcestershire.

I cannot find him, as I said, on the 1891 Census, and the only details I have are of his death.

I don't know if this will help you to help me, but many thanks anyway

Regards
Gillianr
 
Hi Gillianr

I think that this may be your James in 1891:

89 Church Street, Ekington, Worcester (Bell Inn)
James Clifford was a Servant, aged 15, born Worcestershire, Pershore.

Pirton where James was born was in the hundred of Pershore.

Judy
 
Reading this post reminds me of my Dad, he served in the Worcs. for 22 years. He served in China and India, for a lot of the time. my Mom went to India with him and one of my brothers was born there. He left the Worcs. in 1945 his rank was (according to my birth certificate)C.2.M.S 510 1310. any one know what that was? from the stories he used to tell me he really enjoyed the army life. he used to refer to the 1st of june or july as THE GLORIOUS FIRST something to do with a battle the Worcs took part in sometime in the 1800s. Also my Brother did his national service in the Worcs. i remember going to Norton Barracks for his passing out parade.
My sister in law has told me that there are 2 medals that he was entitled to and i don,t think he got, and being his only living child i could apply for them, but i,m not sure how to go about it. The only medal i can remember seeing is his long service medal. His older brother also served in the WORCS. he was in the WW1 and got killed in France on the 1/1/1918. I got a copy of the scroll that was issued to the families of all soldiers who were killed in battle, I also found a photo of the cemetry he is buried in.
 
I wonder if anyone can help me?I was reading this post and noticed that J Cliffords number in The Royal Worcestershires was 9549.
My great uncle was in The South Staffs his number was 9543.
I was wondering if each regiment used the same numbers?
Moss.
 
mossg, In WW1 when a soldier was posted from a regiment to another his service number did not always transfer with him so he would have two numbers so medals could be awarded to Private X. No1234 or Private X, No 5678 but they were the same soldier in later years probably after circa 1920 when a present day soldier leaves a regiment or corps for another his number goes with him. Len.
 
Thanks Len.But does this mean that the two regiments could have had soldiers with the same number?
Moss.
 
Each Battalion of a Regiment had the same numbers, so if they had ten Battalions,there could be ten men with the same number.


Hope this makes sense to you.
Nick
 
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