I'm Toni. Percy grandaughter. Hi.Re: jamacia row
You are correct Smiler it is Iris daughter of Percy not Bert as I stated,those where the days !!
Geoffrey.
Sambo..... Was that StanleyMy brother started work at W Daniel and Son as a "Booking Clerk" in 1965 andI remember going down on Saturdays to help him bring home his swag, all the fruit and veg "Sambo" his gaffer had "swopped" for poultry and game with the other Traders. When he was old enough to partake of the Amber Nectar we would accompany Sambo and a few others in the Brook Vaults. I wonder if the Political Correct Gang would allow Sambo to be called Sambo even though Sambo was as white as the driven snow and a Brummie born and bred. My brother is still working in the market, still in the Poultry and Game and I am trying to jog his memory for some stories.
jimbo
Phil's post was a reply to posts 2 and 3. What is not mentioned is that the sign over the doorway shows it to be an Atkinsons house.Re: jamacia row
They would have been Brooks Vaults & the Smithfield Tavern. Two very well used market houses that in fact used to open on special licence early in the mornings for market workers.
Phil
Toni62, I am not sure what "Sambos" real name was, as with many Market people they had names that were nothing like their real ones, Hoggis, the Lemon etc, and my brothers own nick name "sleepy".Sambo..... Was that Stanley
Ok. Thank you. Stanley Moseley is the man in on about.Toni62, I am not sure what "Sambos" real name was, as with many Market people they had names that were nothing like their real ones, Hoggis, the Lemon etc, and my brothers own nick name "sleepy".
I will ask him when I see him. He has now moved to the new site down Aston.
I'm Percy grandaughter. Hello.Re: jamacia row
I am fairly sure that the lady in white is Iris Moseley, the daughter of the well known Bull Ring 'character' Percy Moseley.
There is a another picture of her with her brother 'Sammy' working on a barrow in the Bull Ring outside Woolworth's in the 1950's taken by Phylis Nicklin, a copy was on this site before it was hacked, but can still be seen on the Pbase site.
Smiler
My brother started work at W Daniel and Son as a "Booking Clerk" in 1965 and I remember going down on Saturdays to help him bring home his swag, all the fruit and veg "Sambo" his gaffer had "swopped" for poultry and game with the other Traders. When he was old enough to partake of the Amber Nectar we would accompany Sambo and a few others in the Brook Vaults. I wonder if the Political Correct Gang would allow Sambo to be called Sambo even though Sambo was as white as the driven snow and a Brummie born and bred. My brother is still working in the market, still in the Poultry and Game and I am trying to jog his memory for some stories.
jimbo
Blackboy Road exists in Exeter. Apparently named after a pub of that name. It was there at the time of the civil war.There is a road in north London, not too far from where I live, called Black Boy Lane where there was also a pub of the same name.
I understand that the name actually related to King Charles 2nd - it was a nickname he was given on account of having very dark hair
Blackboy Road exists in Exeter. Apparently named after a pub of that name. It was there at the time of the civil war.
Do you have a picture of the farmers arms?, John.
I have uploaded a pic of the fire at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/jamaica-row/Do you have a picture of the farmers arms?, John.
This beer house was in Jamaica Row at a later date. The large numbers 28 refer to Balsall Street as the section of Jamaica Row between Bromsgrove Street/Moat Row and Cheapside/Sherlock Street was formerly Balsall Street. The Woodman was later at No.70 Jamaica Row.A great photo from the Shoothill site of Jamaica Row. Interesting business called The Woodman Luncheon Stores at number 28. Viv.
I have improved the plan I had for Jamaica Row between Bromsgrove Street and Sherlock Street ...
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Hi It's been 7 years since your comment on this thread I hope you're still on this site. William Daniel snr was my Gt-Gt grandfather.does anyone know where the name came from?
Up until recently there was a small road called " The Darkies" in Northfield. it was originally an alleyway that ran from Woodland Road around to the Church/ cemetery. But for some reason the sign was moved across the Road and was placed at the end of Wychall Road where it seemed to be more noticeable and the funny brigade got it replaced with the name Wychall Lane.....the original lane now has no name at all.I did geta pic of the Darkies sign so it's not been confined to the bin forever.......lol.“I wonder if the Political Correct Gang would allow Sambo to be called Sambo even though Sambo was as white as the driven snow and a Brummie born and bred.”
If you read the Thread “Recollections of Old Birmingham” from 1866...The remarkable lady informs us that some time before 1866 Jamaica Row was known as Black Boy Yard, and the Public House now called Wool Pack (in 1866) was then the Black Boy.